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    How about that memo from our leader Mr. Kemp in his message he states even though we are in good financial condition he feels now would be a good time to also ask for a give back. Hey all you B less (Is that better) TEAMSTERS watch and see what we do at ABF. WE have always liked keeping our pay level at what was agreed upon. But if need be we'll listen before we say NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ! Besides my wife said she is not willing to take a pay cut.

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    I always liked and respected wes kemp. He just seemed like a down to earth, likeable guy. But to hear him say how well off abf is financially and how we are debt free and doing so well, but..... we're going to need concessions , "before" we get in trouble. My gosh, we had an equipment meeting a few weeks ago and the guy that was giving the meeting spent a few minutes on the equipment, then flipped his chart over and low and behold there is a whole page about how ABF is debt free and doing good, then he flips the chart again and he brags (this is an hourly paid truck driver presenting this) about how abf has 200 million in the bank and again he stresses how well we are doing. The charts were provided by the home office, so I imagine the speech was designed by them too. To be delivered to us by one of our own, while we are forced to watch it. Anyway everything was rosy just a few weeks ago, now suddenly abf needs us to give back something, simply because yrc is mismanaged and made some bad decisions. But because they get a break,well, now abf needs the break to remain competitive. Jeez! And we can't even "demand" that the abf upper management take a cut because they could show a cut, then at the end of the year they give themselves a bigger bonus or they increase their per diem travel expenses and when they have that business meeting in aruba they take their family along, all expenses paid and talk business for 2 hours and swim and relax for 4 days at the suite they have at the 5 star resort. They just sign for everything at the end.

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    Sounds like Howdy is giving Wes some advice. Maybe Wes needs to look at what Howdy's propaganda program he ran for two years got him.

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    I don't think a pay cut will help anyone but the shippers. We all take pay cuts, the rates go lower but the shippers will not pass this along to theor customers. I heard today that the oil industry is looking for federal relief. After several years of record profits at our expense they now need help? I think several industries are crying wolf because of the economy. The rich get richer and the middle class keeps paying for it.

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    Here is my perspective on this whole matter. First YRC. We all kniow that this executive level has the worst history of screwing up......just about everything they touch. Just ask anybody that worked for Preston. The executive level wants a give back......show us by example. Take your one dollar per year salaries. We might follow you then.

    As for our guys at ABF......how do you think we have been profitable? It ain't magic. We are impressed with the foresight and ability to change the business in a positive way. You have hired the best of the best employees you can find, and we out perform anyone else in the business. Now you are asking us for a give back.

    Here is an idea for you. Sure you will talk to our leaders, and you should. Unfair advantage? You have been given everything you have asked for in the recent changes of operation. WE have made these changes work, regardless of our personal cost. Further, we are happy and are proud that OUR, management and labor, have worked so well together to make the changes possible to make this company viable and profitable. Putting the non-union companies on notice that we are here to stay, and be ready to pay homage to the real professionals in this industry. We all here at ABF.

    Show us all by example that you too are serious about this companies future. As in the early days of business in the W. Edwards Deming led Japanese reconstruction era, no one employee, from president to janitor, makes more money than the other. Are you ready to make that commitment? We all want the same thing as you do, are you ready to cut your salaries and perks (total compensation packages) to the level of the highest paid road driver in the system after the give backs? If you are, we will support your bid for wage concessions. After all, we are all fellow employees, aren't we? We should also bear the burden together, shouldn't we? Because we all work tirelessly, 24 hours a day 7 days a week 364 days a year. We are out in the snowstorms, ice storms, trucks returning to "company owned repair shops" in 100 degree plus temperatures, without air conditioning, even while your fast asleep in your comfortable homes with your families.

    And as an aside, your coveted ATA has secured the 11 hour driving rule to further increase already maximized productivity. We give you everything short of the proverbial "pint of blood". Now it appears as if your going to demand that too.

    I am still amazed that you can ask for an even further advantage than what we are giving you already.


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    VERY well said!!!!

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    hope you all vote no our barn share 1/3 off it with abf when yrc lays me off i work next door at abf . hope the bests for you. good luck brothers and sisters

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey View Post
    Here is my perspective on this whole matter. First YRC. We all kniow that this executive level has the worst history of screwing up......just about everything they touch. Just ask anybody that worked for Preston. The executive level wants a give back......show us by example. Take your one dollar per year salaries. We might follow you then.

    As for our guys at ABF......how do you think we have been profitable? It ain't magic. We are impressed with the foresight and ability to change the business in a positive way. You have hired the best of the best employees you can find, and we out perform anyone else in the business. Now you are asking us for a give back.

    Here is an idea for you. Sure you will talk to our leaders, and you should. Unfair advantage? You have been given everything you have asked for in the recent changes of operation. WE have made these changes work, regardless of our personal cost. Further, we are happy and are proud that OUR, management and labor, have worked so well together to make the changes possible to make this company viable and profitable. Putting the non-union companies on notice that we are here to stay, and be ready to pay homage to the real professionals in this industry. We all here at ABF.

    Show us all by example that you too are serious about this companies future. As in the early days of business in the W. Edwards Deming led Japanese reconstruction era, no one employee, from president to janitor, makes more money than the other. Are you ready to make that commitment? We all want the same thing as you do, are you ready to cut your salaries and perks (total compensation packages) to the level of the highest paid road driver in the system after the give backs? If you are, we will support your bid for wage concessions. After all, we are all fellow employees, aren't we? We should also bear the burden together, shouldn't we? Because we all work tirelessly, 24 hours a day 7 days a week 364 days a year. We are out in the snowstorms, ice storms, trucks returning to "company owned repair shops" in 100 degree plus temperatures, without air conditioning, even while your fast asleep in your comfortable homes with your families.

    And as an aside, your coveted ATA has secured the 11 hour driving rule to further increase already maximized productivity. We give you everything short of the proverbial "pint of blood". Now it appears as if your going to demand that too.

    I am still amazed that you can ask for an even further advantage than what we are giving you already.


    When a system is stable, telling the worker about mistakes is only tampering.
    ------W. Edwards Deming
    Great post Mikey, as a fellow ABF driver I suggest you put this post on the ABF at work site. About a year ago I got a personal response from Murray Babbs for a tirade I sent in about lay-offs.

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    Some TEAMSTERS were asking me in Dayton last night what I thought about the Kemp Letter. I said My wife said she does not believe in give backs. With that said I asked if ABF really needed to equal that of YRC why would the UNION not explore all areas. Like I'll keep my normal hours as they were but if the company is strapped I might consider giving a few hours a week either on the dock or in the yard where it would not affect my 60 hour rule. This would save ABF the same amount of money as YRC and it would not affect my normal wages. And this could only be done if everyone was working and that means all TEAMSTERS are recalled. The few hours worked for no pay would be enough to help off set the cost of the pension and health coverage, And this would be our worst case scenario. Never no money back. But no! The company and the Union never explores all the different avenues. Their first and only response is take money from the Rank and File. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS.

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