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    Default Would you trust the IBT

    Johnson Say's he has never had any contract or concessions talks with ABF. Would you trust him or the IBT to broker a deal for the ABF Teamsters?

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    I'll Start. I say NO! Just look at the letter signed by him SCREWING the Chicago TEAMSTERS. Why didn't he at least have the brains to let Hoffa sign such a union breaking letter in my opinion. According to the letter all the decisions were made by Johnson. Will he appear on this site again and explain just as he did for the ABF CEO news release? If YRC can not make it unless several hundred Teamsters in the Chicago area are destroyed them it is a sad day to be a Teamster. YOUR PISSED OFF BROTHER!

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    Default Re: Would you trust the IBT

    While the "Chicago development (screw job)" has got me worked up, I will say probably no.
    I'd also like to add into the mix a point that Brother waleye pointed out; the president of ABF isn't retracting his statement either.

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    Default Re: Would you trust the IBT

    Quote Originally Posted by Pullin3 View Post
    While the "Chicago development (screw job)" has got me worked up, I will say probably no.
    I'd also like to add into the mix a point that Brother waleye pointed out; the president of ABF isn't retracting his statement either.
    Excellent points.

    This coupled with past performance by the IBT on important issues, tell me that the IBT can not to be trusted.


    IBT ----> <---- All past, present and future Teamsters

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    ABF asked prior to the last contract the right to place their Teamsters into their own plan and was told no way. Now don't get me wrong I'm not wanting any company man to be in control of my retirement but they would not even talk with ABF. But they did suck up to UPS didn't they?

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    Default Re: Would you trust the IBT

    IBT is a corporation, is it not? Now we have two Corporations to create wealth for the corporations. So get back to work slaves. If you do not like it you have a choice after all this is a free country! When did union meetings become so similar to Time Share sales presentations? Is it only the last three or four years or has it always been this way? Seems like they have a hard sell message, with a take it or leave it message. YOU WILL DO THIS OR ELSE! Put the U. Back in Union. Get rid of the THEM! So now I better come up with something better! We all need to! I better have better solutions and involve me, rather than just whining about them! But will anybody hear my voice? Will I have a chance to speak? Unless I barge in and shout out will my voice be heard?
    First I better understand what the heck I am trying to say! Ping Pong! Rattling around thoughts in is table tennis brain!

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    Well, all you UNION BROTHERS who voted for Hoffa you got what you voted for now live with it. I do beleive this is what you call PISS POOR LEADERSHIP.!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MULER View Post
    Johnson Say's he has never had any contract or concessions talks with ABF. Would you trust him or the IBT to broker a deal for the ABF Teamsters?
    Well there is a thing called divide and conquer, and most freight companies know the play book pretty well. I have put my trust and faith in the IBT since 1980 and have made a pretty good living for my Family and have been very pruod to be a Teamster, and have never felt shame to say so. You have to put your faith somewhere, and if you are doubting UNION leadership, it sounds to me you are more company orientated. Now it is no doubt the company writes my paycheck, but it is the UNION that has provided me with the above average living for a High School graduate, and the security of not being abused like a SCAB outfit is able to abuse their indentured servants. This kind of Union Bashing turns my stomach. I'm sure Scabs come to this site and read and especially Jeff, from Scabs unlimited, and when they read this kind of garbage, why would any of these people ever contemplate Unionizing when our own Members are bashing the Union( the leadership as well as us are the Union). To me its kinda like cussing, I do plenty of it but not where anyone shouldn't hear it, as in Church, in front of Women and Children, or in public, or in the presence of anyone else that I'm I might offend.

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    Well it is not bashing. But yes I do question. I am not a blind follower. If I disagree it does not make me a bad Teamster. Would you say all Teamster officials have been honest and forthright through out the years? When you comment about my union loyalty you are barking up the wrong tree. But you see I don't get angry with you because you took a shot at me. But I do wonder why you will take a shot at me but not those that have added to the hardships of my union Brothers and Sisters. So step down from your soap box and read where I have posted anything that was not true? Where should we talk about the problems that we face? Do you really think the other companies don't know what is going on? After all what is this site for? Rainbows and lolly pops only. And I am glad you do not swear in front of children and women and in church. PS if you have ever cursed in a terminal or a yard then you have cursed in some of my Church's. For where ever I am the house of the lord is within me! YOUR FORGIVING BROTHER ALWAYS! PS My quote you posted was a question not a statement.
    Last edited by MULER; 11-30-2009 at 04:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MULER View Post
    Well it is not bashing. But yes I do question. I am not a blind follower. If I disagree it does not make me a bad Teamster. Would you say all Teamster officials have been honest and forthright through out the years? When you comment about my union loyalty you are barking up the wrong tree. But you see I don't get angry with you because you took a shot at me. But I do wonder why you will take a shot at me but not those that have added to the hardships of my union Brothers and Sisters. So step down from your soap box and read where I have posted anything that was not true? Where should we talk about the problems that we face? Do you really think the other companies don't know what is going on? After all what is this site for? Rainbows and lolly pops only. And I am glad you do not swear in front of children and women and in church. PS if you have ever cursed in a terminal or a yard then you have cursed in some of my Church's. For where ever I am the house of the lord is within me! YOUR FORGIVING BROTHER ALWAYS! PS My quote you posted was a question not a statement.
    It wasn't a shot at you, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. I usually agree with you on most things, it was just a general statement as the way I read into these posts from union members. If I were in trouble I would want you on my side. I just don't see this as a good venue to bash our Union as I would like to see our membership grow.

 

 
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