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    Default Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    I talked to a fellow ABF driver today, and he said that there is concern at his barn (managers and labor) that in the future they will have financial problems. Not to the extent of YRCW, but because they have the highest cost in the LTL industry now. Are they going to have issues competing with the competition while having the most overhead.

    He said he would rather take a little cut now verses waiting until ABF needed the cut to stay competitive in the market place.

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    Would this be the ABF rumor thread

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    ENOUGH I'VE HAD ENOUGH!!!

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    Rumors, rumors and more rumors. Rumor has it that I can not keep the rumors straight.

    But then again that just might be a rumor.

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    Quote Originally Posted by HBF View Post
    Would this be the ABF rumor thread
    Might be, but it is not rumor what my friend and I talked about.

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster View Post
    I talked to a fellow ABF driver today, and he said that there is concern at his barn (managers and labor) that in the future they will have financial problems.

    He said he would rather take a little cut now verses waiting until ABF needed the cut to stay competitive in the market place.
    Yea... that's great!

    This is exactly what ABF wants...

    They want the hired help believing this!

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster View Post
    Not to the extent of YRCW, but because they have the highest cost in the LTL industry now. Are they going to have issues competing with the competition while having the most overhead.
    No Way!

    ABF is a Fine Tuned Machine!

    They operate out of nine (9) DC's...

    Need I say more

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    When I said overhead, I meant the wages and benefits they are paying verses every one else in the business.

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster View Post
    When I said overhead, I meant the wages and benefits they are paying verses every one else in the business.
    They took that into consideration when they sat down with the rest and negotiated the last contract...

    I don't believe for a minute that ABF is struggling financially...

    I do believe that ABF wants the same as YRCW, though...

    But, this isn't a < Me Too / White Paper - Agreement > that they negotiated and the bargaining unit employee's of ABF ratified!

    So, the only hope they have of getting what YRCW has is to falsely convince their own - without having to open their books.

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    They are paying the highest wages and also making pension payments. I think this will catch up to them.

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    Quote Originally Posted by NikDiesel View Post
    They took that into consideration when they sat down with the rest and negotiated the last contract...

    I don't believe for a minute that ABF is struggling financially...

    I do believe that ABF wants the same as YRCW, though...

    But, this isn't a < Me Too / White Paper - Agreement > that they negotiated and the bargaining unit employee's of ABF ratified!

    So, the only hope they have of getting what YRCW has is to falsely convince their own - without having to open their books.
    NikDiesel you my friend are 100% correct on this. They are trying to jump on the bandwagon and take advantage of the mess yrc management got themselves into not the teamster employees.

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    Default Re: Is ABF going to need a MOU also now?

    The stupid things abf is doing right now is like they are purposely doin this to try and show they are loosing money. In the 24 years I've been here I never seen the crazy things going on and continue to go on. Back in 87 or 88 on the leverage attemted leverage buyout they asked for a 15% wage cut for 7 years and was told to close the doors now. They ended with no wage cut and tightened their belt and ended up buying up the stock themselves and paying it off in 5 years instead of the planned 7. I think I'm pretty close in saying that this is just there way of trying to make the employees thinking they need the same as yrc or were done. The regional VP was in and he said they were going after the same thing as YRC got. Does anyone really think that once these companies stop paying into the pension fund they are going to happily return to paying this again I think not. I hope I'm wrong on the pension fund but I've been wrong before and probably will be many times more.

 

 
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