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    Iíd like to keep my Union local and company undisclosed as this case still goes on.

    I was terminated by my job almost 4 months ago. Since then my buisness agent for my department has filed a grievance and I already had my meeting with my BA, chief steward and upper management. Afterwards I was told Iíd hear back with their decision in 10 days if Iím to have my job offered back or not, and after that their decision was still no. Itís been 2 months since then.

    My business rep says basically itís out of his hands now and that he was going to turn all my paperwork over to the unions attorney and then weíd have a meeting with the attorney about my case and what could be done. I was told this almost two months ago after the companyís decision after the 10 days. Iíve called my rep multiple times and every time he says the lawyer hasnít got back with him.

    Finally I call the president business rep at my union hall to see if he could get something going, I explained everything from my termination to all my dealings with the rep afterwards. He says he would speak with my rep thatís been handling my case and have him call me back.

    My rep finally calls me back last Friday. He states thereís an issue with him being able to read the text in my email(a written statement he asked I send to him, I sent it over 40+ days ago to him) I typed it up on my phone and sent it using my iPhone at the time, back ground of my iPhones note pad is black so the text in the notes is grey, my error there on that part as I didnít catch that. Then he states he has my official termination letter from the company but to speed things up he asked if I still had my copy and if I could email it to get it over to the lawyer. As you can image Iím trying to keep my absolute cool here at this point. This now tells me he never even looked at the email with my written statement that he requested and I sent to him over 40+ days ago. Because if he had looked at the email or even sent it to the lawyer back then like he said he was the I would have heard about this complaint of the text color being too light to read back then. And that he possibly doesnít even have my termination letter from the company because why should I have to email you my copy.

    Is my union trying to sweep me up under the rug here and hope I just go away. Should it even take this long to have a meeting with the attorney? My rep stated some weeks back that heís dealing with another termination from my department and 6 other terminations from other companyís the union is with. So back then Iíve been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here that he is just dealing with a lot lately, but not so much now do I feel that way.

    Not sure if I should post the exact details about my termination on here or not.

    I basically had a situation with a supervisor that wanted me to do a task, I didnít want to do it because right before I was approached I was about to leave early using FMLA as my back was killing still after taking two ibuprofen 800ís already and it wasnít helping. I told him multiple times I was going home early and then he stated it was a direct order. I filled out the paper work to leave FMLA anyways and clocked out. I was going to give the paper work to the supervisor Iím supposed to tell Iím leaving early but he wasnít around so I gave my paper work to leave early to the supervisor that wanted me to do a task. If you leave work early you are to report and tell the supervisor leading the shift in the office, if not available any supervisor at all will suffice if you can not wait.

    On my way out the building I was stopped by the supervisor, manager and my chief shop steward.
    I explained the situation to the steward but the supervisor still wanted to take my badge. So I gave it to him and the steward escorted me out the building.

    My termination was for severe misconduct by insubordination. During my meeting that I had with my union rep and the company they had a written statement from the supervisor stating I cursed at him which never happened. When the situation at work happened there were no witnesses so thereís no third party to confirm my version of the story nor the supervisors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tui View Post
    Iíd like to keep my Union local and company undisclosed as this case still goes on.

    I was terminated by my job almost 4 months ago. Since then my buisness agent for my department has filed a grievance and I already had my meeting with my BA, chief steward and upper management. Afterwards I was told Iíd hear back with their decision in 10 days if Iím to have my job offered back or not, and after that their decision was still no. Itís been 2 months since then.

    My business rep says basically itís out of his hands now and that he was going to turn all my paperwork over to the unions attorney and then weíd have a meeting with the attorney about my case and what could be done. I was told this almost two months ago after the companyís decision after the 10 days. Iíve called my rep multiple times and every time he says the lawyer hasnít got back with him.

    Finally I call the president business rep at my union hall to see if he could get something going, I explained everything from my termination to all my dealings with the rep afterwards. He says he would speak with my rep thatís been handling my case and have him call me back.

    My rep finally calls me back last Friday. He states thereís an issue with him being able to read the text in my email(a written statement he asked I send to him, I sent it over 40+ days ago to him) I typed it up on my phone and sent it using my iPhone at the time, back ground of my iPhones note pad is black so the text in the notes is grey, my error there on that part as I didnít catch that. Then he states he has my official termination letter from the company but to speed things up he asked if I still had my copy and if I could email it to get it over to the lawyer. As you can image Iím trying to keep my absolute cool here at this point. This now tells me he never even looked at the email with my written statement that he requested and I sent to him over 40+ days ago. Because if he had looked at the email or even sent it to the lawyer back then like he said he was the I would have heard about this complaint of the text color being too light to read back then. And that he possibly doesnít even have my termination letter from the company because why should I have to email you my copy.

    Is my union trying to sweep me up under the rug here and hope I just go away. Should it even take this long to have a meeting with the attorney? My rep stated some weeks back that heís dealing with another termination from my department and 6 other terminations from other companyís the union is with. So back then Iíve been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here that he is just dealing with a lot lately, but not so much now do I feel that way.

    Not sure if I should post the exact details about my termination on here or not.

    I basically had a situation with a supervisor that wanted me to do a task, I didnít want to do it because right before I was approached I was about to leave early using FMLA as my back was killing still after taking two ibuprofen 800ís already and it wasnít helping. I told him multiple times I was going home early and then he stated it was a direct order. I filled out the paper work to leave FMLA anyways and clocked out. I was going to give the paper work to the supervisor Iím supposed to tell Iím leaving early but he wasnít around so I gave my paper work to leave early to the supervisor that wanted me to do a task. If you leave work early you are to report and tell the supervisor leading the shift in the office, if not available any supervisor at all will suffice if you can not wait.

    On my way out the building I was stopped by the supervisor, manager and my chief shop steward.
    I explained the situation to the steward but the supervisor still wanted to take my badge. So I gave it to him and the steward escorted me out the building.

    My termination was for severe misconduct by insubordination. During my meeting that I had with my union rep and the company they had a written statement from the supervisor stating I cursed at him which never happened. When the situation at work happened there were no witnesses so thereís no third party to confirm my version of the story nor the supervisors.
    Have you met with your Union rep in person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    Have you met with your Union rep in person?

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    Step One: The steward and the grievant meet with the supervisor within 10 days of the occurrence to resolve the grievance. Management has five days to respond.
    Basically had this step the day I was terminated. Where I was stopped before I could leave.

    Step Two: If there is no settlement at Step One, a union representative, the grievant and a management representative will meet to try to resolve the grievance.
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    When I had my meeting at the job site two months ago this is the last time Iíve seen my rep in person.

    Three: If still unresolved, the grievance will be heard by an arbitrator or panel who will render a decision.
    I have yet to get to this step as all my rep has been talking about is meeting with the attorney first to discuss the details, that has yet to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tui View Post
    Basically had this step the day I was terminated. Where I was stopped before I could leave.



    When I had my meeting at the job site two months ago this is the last time Iíve seen my rep in person.



    I have yet to get to this step as all my rep has been talking about is meeting with the attorney first to discuss the details, that has yet to happen.
    Thank you for clarification.

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    I guess my ultimate question is, should it be taking this long to get to step 3? I’m being told that I’d be meeting with the unions attorney, which hasn’t happened yet and it’s been two months now. Doesn’t seem right, or is this process typically moved at a slugs pace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tui View Post
    I guess my ultimate question is, should it be taking this long to get to step 3? I’m being told that I’d be meeting with the unions attorney, which hasn’t happened yet and it’s been two months now. Doesn’t seem right, or is this process typically moved at a slugs pace?
    Never been in your predicament. I was threatened with termination once. Sent home and told to wait. I was contacted in two days and told to return to work. I was paid all lost money, including the overtime my replacement made.
    I know any law issue involving attorney's and the possibility of a court action will take significant time.
    Have you considered an attorney for yourself ? Have you contacted the union's attorney to schedule an appointment ?
    All of us hope your issue can and will be resolved in your favor, but we are on the outside and don't know all the particulars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tui View Post
    I guess my ultimate question is, should it be taking this long to get to step 3? Iím being told that Iíd be meeting with the unions attorney, which hasnít happened yet and itís been two months now. Doesnít seem right, or is this process typically moved at a slugs pace?
    Slugs pace? That made me chuckle. It seems that way at times. It wouldn't hurt to visit your local and speak with your Business Agent ASAP.

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    You could reach out to your local EEOC. FMLA is protected and if your on it the correct way then you could have protection. If FMLA is addressed in your contract then I would still deal with the local. Either way I would reach out to the EEOC since FMLA is involved. Just my thoughts ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    You could reach out to your local EEOC. FMLA is protected and if your on it the correct way then you could have protection. If FMLA is addressed in your contract then I would still deal with the local. Either way I would reach out to the EEOC since FMLA is involved. Just my thoughts ......
    I was thinking the same thing Jimmy.

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    It would be cool if you could keep us updates as you can.

 

 
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