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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    That's ok. In the end we would control our own economy. Not the world and Wall St telling us how it should be.
    It was devastating losing the jobs too. Once in our control the unions could get back the numbers we lost and the government might listen to us rather than our unions and union leaders listening to the politicians.and business owners.
    Government listen ? I almost fell out of my chair.
    Sit back and watch Ken Burns Vietnam documentary. All episodes.
    Then tell yourself, or thousands of people like you, that you'll make the government listen. Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    Government listen ? I almost fell out of my chair.
    Sit back and watch Ken Burns Vietnam documentary. All episodes.
    Then tell yourself, or thousands of people like you, that you'll make the government listen. Sure.
    And you are different in your political stances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    That's ok. In the end we would control our own economy. Not the world and Wall St telling us how it should be.
    It was devastating losing the jobs too. Once in our control the unions could get back the numbers we lost and the government might listen to us rather than our unions and union leaders listening to the politicians.and business owners.
    Protectionism, isolating ourselves is a loser. We need trading partners Slave. I liked the idea of the TPP until I read it. Tweak it and it could be a great way to continue our imports with other countries and isolate China completely. That's a win/win for all countries involved and a huge problem for China.

    The Union density has very little chance to rebound to great numbers like it once was. I wish there were more positives. A corporate friendly SCOTUS along with the NLRB of same doesn't bode well of the future. RTW laws are killing us. The Janus decision is creating a scabs utopia as time progresses.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    Protectionism, isolating ourselves is a loser. We need trading partners Slave. I liked the idea of the TPP until I read it. Tweak it and it could be a great way to continue our imports with other countries and isolate China completely. That's a win/win for all countries involved and a huge problem for China.

    The Union density has very little chance to rebound to great numbers like it once was. I wish there were more positives. A corporate friendly SCOTUS along with the NLRB of same doesn't bode well of the future. RTW laws are killing us. The Janus decision is creating a scabs utopia as time progresses.



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    I guess we just let them kill us off like the natives.
    America is done just like Britain and Rome.
    The Mayans saw Cortez ships.....and we saw Honda's Datsuns Sony's .

    For some reason I don't think it is a good idea to give up.
    The kids are getting more radical. They need labor with pay...not more time reading.

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    Many have posted on here about tariffs and who pays them.. many have said its the American consumers ..

    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...GA_RA59TJ5mAtw

    The main takeaway, however, is remarkable: the U.S. fought a trade war with its largest trading partner and emerged largely unscathed. The U.S. economy is far more resilient and less reliant on China than Trump critics believed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    Many have posted on here about tariffs and who pays them.. many have said its the American consumers ..

    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...GA_RA59TJ5mAtw
    And what would anyone expect from a radical right wing rag that promotes thou righteous one, the orange liar in chief ?
    Could you please explain how the Billions we gave to the farmers socialistic program helped us, the taxpayer ?
    Or how the loss of farm sales, produce, fresh fish and fruit and others within the AG community benefited the US taxpayer ?
    Or the bankruptcy's in the farm belt ?

    Denialism is a disease that runs rampant though Trumpworld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    And what would anyone expect from a radical right wing rag that promotes thou righteous one, the orange liar in chief ?
    Could you please explain how the Billions we gave to the farmers socialistic program helped us, the taxpayer ?
    Or how the loss of farm sales, produce, fresh fish and fruit and others within the AG community benefited the US taxpayer ?
    Or the bankruptcy's in the farm belt ?

    Denialism is a disease that runs rampant though Trumpworld.
    Guess you didn't read the article or if you read it you failed to understand what was in it..

    The Wall Street Journal reported this weekend that far from the dire consequences predicted, the U.S. economy “sailed through two turbulent years of trade war with China with barely a scratch.”
    Did you see that part?? WALL STREET Journal..


    The biggest hit to the U.S. economy was a decline in agricultural exports to China. But this was largely ameliorated by the Trump administration’s decision to divert $28 billion of income from tariffs to U.S. farmers.
    So go ahead and tell me where you paid all those increased prices you posted about previously..
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    Guess you didn't read the article or if you read it you failed to understand what was in it..

    Did you see that part?? WALL STREET Journal..

    So go ahead and tell me where you paid all those increased prices you posted about previously..
    Denialism.

    I read this:
    Farmers took a big hit. Importers of auto parts, furniture and machinery choked down punishing tariffs. Investment between the world’s two largest economies dropped.
    And this, my tax dollars:
    The biggest hit to the U.S. economy was a decline in agricultural exports to China. But this was largely ameliorated by the Trump administration’s decision to divert $28 billion of income from tariffs to U.S. farmers.
    And this:
    So who paid for tariffs? For the most part, it appears they were paid out of corporate profits of U.S. importers. Those corporations, of course, got a huge tax cut before the trade war kicked in, which means after-tax income was higher than it would have been.
    Yes, denialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    Denialism.

    I read this:
    And this, my tax dollars:
    And this:

    Yes, denialism.
    Do you need a tutorial on how to connect the dots?? Previously posted on this forum that the farmers were getting corporate welfare and the taxpayers were on the hook. Tariffs paid to the farmers paid by tariffs collected. Economy is still going but you will find something wrong with it. Now that's okay because in your mind you won. You win you win you won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    Do you need a tutorial on how to connect the dots?? Previously posted on this forum that the farmers were getting corporate welfare and the taxpayers were on the hook. Tariffs paid to the farmers paid by tariffs collected. Economy is still going but you will find something wrong with it. Now that's okay because in your mind you won. You win you win you won.
    Thanks Buddy !

 

 
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