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08-08-2009
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#21 (permalink)
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
I thought that is what I was doing. PJ if you read the post I referred to seeing both sides. What did I say that made you say this conversation is pointless?
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08-08-2009
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#22 (permalink)
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Getting In The Groove Now.
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
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Originally Posted by UnionTrucka
With all due respect, how do you think Holland will grow with NPME being shut down ? Holland was shut down in the northeast and their business was given to NPME. who was at the controls for that decision ? Ol' Dollar Bill ! Holland, at no fault of their employees, is a money loser. since YRC aquired USF, it has been proven over and over at the end of every damn quarter. for far too long, it has been told to me, that Holland's freight focused way too much on the tanking auto industry and it's pricing is not on par when it comes to regional, overnight freight which in turn makes them unprofitable. NPME business structure is completely different. we're not in the black for no reason ! NP's problem now, and YRC, is trying to make Holland's freight profitable when shipping and delivering in the northeast. we get a sh*tload of frt. from Holland but if we aint gonna make any $$$ off of it, what's the point ? as far as interlining goes, we need each other's frt. or else there will be more layoffs coming. however, the pricing needs to be adjusted.
as for being a NP Teamster, trust me, I haven't worried a single day that NP will be shut. quite frankly there's no justification to do it. YRC needs our $$ every week to pay their bills and the banks, in my opinion, will not allow a bottom-dwelling company like YRCW to shut money-makin NP. the banks call the shots here, not Billy Boy. why do you think he hasn't sold us yet ? and don't feed into that crap that their isn't a buyer. that's total b.s. ! Dollar Bill may not like the fact that we at NP shut his deal down but the fact is, he needs us to be and remain profitable.
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With all do respect, if you believe New Penn pays all the bills at YRC you are truly kidding yourself. If you think the banks won't let YRC shut you down you are blind. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your workplace, NP is a very very little chunk of YRC's pie. Pride can be a very good thing, too much pride could bite you in the azz! Just wondering where does it say in any SEC report that NP is making money? I would like to see the breakdown for all the YRC companies for my personal interest, please post a link if you have one.
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08-08-2009
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#23 (permalink)
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
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Originally Posted by yfs09
With all do respect, if you believe New Penn pays all the bills at YRC you are truly kidding yourself. If you think the banks won't let YRC shut you down you are blind. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your workplace, NP is a very very little chunk of YRC's pie. Pride can be a very good thing, too much pride could bite you in the azz! Just wondering where does it say in any SEC report that NP is making money? I would like to see the breakdown for all the YRC companies for my personal interest, please post a link if you have one.
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Newpenn and Reddaway are both making money and Holland is going to be profitable in the third quarter.I do not think that they show each individual unit anymore,so you have to believe what we are told ,as far as Holland goes,Dollar bill stated this in his last conference call..I also know that we are like a pea on the pod but seriously  do you think they,the banks would allow yrc to close Newpenn because we voted no  I doubt it but you never know as we are not dealing with the real world  we are dealing with corporate world America
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08-08-2009
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#24 (permalink)
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
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Originally Posted by Teamster
I wonder if the end of the road is near for NP now? I would not like to be a NP Teamster for the next few weeks. Holland just might grow real fast now.
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I would love to walk around as a NP teamster, with my big brass pair
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Originally Posted by lavebear
i think you are exactly right teamster, they could very well be on the outside looking in. there is no oops, can we change the vote.
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I would pay to be on the outside looking in, the privilege of being a non yrc employee would be golden.
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Originally Posted by pj2004
Question,
If your company goes bankrupt and you lose your job, and you can't find another union company to hire you, are you still a Teamster?
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In spirit and at heart, yes.
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08-09-2009
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#25 (permalink)
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
Great post Pullin3.
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08-09-2009
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
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Originally Posted by MULER
I thought that is what I was doing. PJ if you read the post I referred to seeing both sides. What did I say that made you say this conversation is pointless?
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Only that its done and over. The vote.
Last edited by pj2004; 08-09-2009 at 07:54 AM.
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08-09-2009
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#27 (permalink)
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
Hey what happened to EITHER ALL PASS THE DEAL OR IT FAILS? Didn't YRC say the first time around that if any division in their system voted the BEG BACK down that it would null and void the whole deal? And before some get angry I am just asking a question. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
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08-09-2009
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#28 (permalink)
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
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Originally Posted by MULER
Hey what happened to EITHER ALL PASS THE DEAL OR IT FAILS? Didn't YRC say the first time around that if any division in their system voted the BEG BACK down that it would null and void the whole deal? And before some get angry I am just asking a question. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
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You are correct, Muler. They did say that to us the first go-round. Not this time though...maybe they forgot?
Response to other posts by pj2004 and yfs09....... IF YRC goes bankrupt, I will feel no responsibility for that! I will be out of a job, but I will have the peace of my conscience in knowing I did the right thing. I voted yes for the 10%. But now they come back for more and I say now is the time to make my stand with a NO vote. I'm in my 16th+ year of employment for this small, but very proficient company. We have been sold to Roadway and then swallowed up by Yellow and at no point was my input asked for until they go and get themselves BILLIONS into debt. New Penn has been profitable at all points in time except for a 5 or 6 week period back before Christmas of '08. That info was directly from our company President, Mr Gast. Everyone knows we can't carry this behemoth on our backs. But the fact we are profitable makes it extremely difficult to agree to further wage and benefit reductions. Perhaps you would feel the same way if you were in our shoes? I am not an employee of Yellow Freight, or Roadway, or the now Hybrid formulation known as YRC. I work for New Penn Motor Express, a small but profitable subsidiary of YRC Regional Transportation, a part of YRC Worldwide. I am not responsible for them making boneheaded financial decisions. That may lead to me having to seek other employment, SO BE IT. It stops now!
We don't know what happens from here. I expect maybe they'll come around and give us a major propaganda production and ask us to reconsider another vote. This includes Hoffa and Teamsters entourage also. Again I will vote NO. YRCW may chose to sabotage our operations by taking away business. Essentially making us lose money. Doesn't make sense, but when has anything they do make sense?
I shall always believe in the power of collective bargaining. However, I feel very angry that I've had to vote for a reduction in wages and benefits that makes it a joke to be LESS compensated than those people whom we'd like to encourage to come join our labor union! Those Conway guys must be snickering with delight right about now. They are absolutely licking their chops at the potential demise of YRCW. I know this because 2 of my brothers work there and it is an ongoing topic of interest for everyone who works there.
Last edited by phinsfan; 08-09-2009 at 11:37 AM.
Reason: spelling
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08-09-2009
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#29 (permalink)
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Getting In The Groove Now.
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
I am very happy with the No vote.
How can you expect a man to agree to losing a pension contribution, one that he was contractually entitled to, and one that he may have been getting for decades, all while the company made a profit.
Pretty sleazy, cutting a contractual pension contribution before having the vote to allow it. As I recall the 5 year contract was something the Frt. Co(s) wanted.
I'm not surprised members are disgusted. IBT and management should take note. NP workers are pissed off. Continued games like a re-vote, or an insignificant counter offer, will not make us feel, work, or vote better.
The union is stongest when were are all, well, united. We need to be at our strongest right now.
NP-18Y
Teamster-22Y
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08-09-2009
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#30 (permalink)
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Re: New Penn Votes NO!!!
Well put phinsfan,,very well put..that last vote would of been a 50,000 plus hit for me.Been with new penn since 1986 and if I retired for 10 years it would of cost me lots of money..now if this went threw 18 months of no pension is hard to take because of corporate greed..Thats right Corporate greed.I do my job and very proud of new penn but YRC IS DESTROYING THE COMPANY,,YRC stands for yellow ruins companies,,Ask preston ask jevic.the IBT needs to stand and fight for whats rights and not fight for yrc,,,,,
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