bye-bye salesforce

[MULER]

A 3pl owns nothing. They get trucking companies to haul freight at a very reduced price in order to get the business. They go to the lowest bidder. Today it may be YRC tomorrow it may be FedEx. And they also are big on piecing together loads for back haul on Truck Load Carriers. They start with a few skids going to a certain city then they keep picking up more shipments going to the same city as the Truck moves towards it destination. Thus damaging the LTL market. They are the leeches of the trucking industry. Image they own no trucks but yet control the vast majority of freight that is handled in this country. And you better not for one moment think they are not a big player in the trucking industry. They are responsible for the shifting of many major accounts of the largest LTL carriers. But the people in charge of these major carriers are to weak to stand together and break these BLOOD SUCKERS so they will destroy the lives of many Truck Drivers. Image controlling billions of dollars of freight and everything your company has is rented and you don't even have a truck that you own on the road hauling freight. If you drive for YRC just look at your BOL you will see many times that the freight bill is being paid by a third party and that is a 3PL sh*t Hole company. Oh and by the way ABF bought it's own 3PL so as to get into the bidding war. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!

[x475]

So , Muler , a 3pl is really nothing more than freight broker with a PC name?

[2631]

Originally Posted by UnionTrucka

so what's better to have nowadays, a real life salesperson who can create a good business relationship or a 3PL handling your frt ? is there anyone on this board that can break down the two ? please, no google/wikipedia sh*t either.

UT, I'm not sure what kind of answer you are looking for in your request for a breakdown between the two.

IMO a 3PL is just a fancy new name for a freight broker. I would think that as far as LTL goes that the shipper is much better off with the traditional salesperson handling his account. In most cases just 1 phonecall to his sales rep will get any issues resolved.

Brokers may give the cheapest rates for a truckload shipment. But I can't see where most LTL shippers would be better served using them for a 500 lb. shipment to Boise.

I find it strange anytime that I make a pickup and see YRC Logistics on the B/L.

[crazy]

Originally Posted by 2631

UT, I'm not sure what kind of answer you are looking for in your request for a breakdown between the two.

IMO a 3PL is just a fancy new name for a freight broker. I would think that as far as LTL goes that the shipper is much better off with the traditional salesperson handling his account. In most cases just 1 phonecall to his sales rep will get any issues resolved.

Brokers may give the cheapest rates for a truckload shipment. But I can't see where most LTL shippers would be better served using them for a 500 lb. shipment to Boise.

I find it strange anytime that I make a pickup and see YRC Logistics on the B/L.

Though I am not entirely sure,I have been told that"" Freightquote "" is owned by YRC and they use every ltl trucking company they can get a hold of..
The difference between 3PL and your salesperson is with the 3PL you get the lowest prices,with your salesperson,you might get to go golfing,fishing or even to a major sporting event..So if you are a shipper that likes the perks ,you stay with the salespeople,otherwise you go for the lowest prices with a 3PL...

[tiredseat]

Originally Posted by crazy

Though I am not entirely sure,I have been told that"" Freightquote "" is owned by YRC and they use every ltl trucking company they can get a hold of..
The difference between 3PL and your salesperson is with the 3PL you get the lowest prices,with your salesperson,you might get to go golfing,fishing or even to a major sporting event..So if you are a shipper that likes the perks ,you stay with the salespeople,otherwise you go for the lowest prices with a 3PL...

Don't know about YRC owning Freightquote but I do know that the terminal/salesman for YRC and a previous terminal/salesman has gone to work for freightquote here locally. The last one told the drivers in this area that he had had enough of the bull and was quitting maybe you might be onto something

[UnionTrucka]

Originally Posted by 2631

UT, I'm not sure what kind of answer you are looking for in your request for a breakdown between the two.

IMO a 3PL is just a fancy new name for a freight broker. I would think that as far as LTL goes that the shipper is much better off with the traditional salesperson handling his account. In most cases just 1 phonecall to his sales rep will get any issues resolved.

Brokers may give the cheapest rates for a truckload shipment. But I can't see where most LTL shippers would be better served using them for a 500 lb. shipment to Boise.

I find it strange anytime that I make a pickup and see YRC Logistics on the B/L.

2-6, all you guys are giving pretty good answers. from going around and seeking info and opinions of others, i've been told that all you need a salesman for nowadays is to take care of your daily customers every now and again. 3PL's are handling everything else.

[MULER]

With a 3PL the trucking companies have no over head such as health coverage or 401k plans for sales people. And the shipper has the same in not having to hire a person to handle their shipping and receiving needs. It is almost like the old days when sales people worked on commission. Except now the shippers sign a contract for these scum sucking leeches to handle all their transportation needs.

[gomez1452]

and yrcw calls there 3pl yrc logisitcs,really nothing new about this,except when times are tough like they are now for all ltl's,the cheapest price gets the freight, thus makeing 3pl's and logistic companys ,look like a shippers dream come true.

[222lifer]

Originally Posted by gomez1452

and yrcw calls there 3pl yrc logisitcs,really nothing new about this,except when times are tough like they are now for all ltl's,the cheapest price gets the freight, thus makeing 3pl's and logistic companys ,look like a shippers dream come true.

If you noticed in the press release yesterday the logistics division showed a profit.

[gomez1452]

they got to show a big profit compared to regionals whopping 99.9o/r. thats 1/10 of a cent profit on every dollar. how long do you think the pencil pushers sat and changed numbers to come up with a 99.9 o/r? logistics showed what, a 92-94 o/r fo r the quarter,thats big $for them, must of gotten paid up front for the peruvian copper mine deal, but the copper mine is really owned by the chineese. don't you just love this global economey?