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    Could somebody post a link for me where to find out about if a company like Fed Ex can give the non-union and the centers that haven't petitioned a raise with out breaking the labor laws. I got in a debate with a co-worker who seems to think as long as there is a petition at just one center it's against the law to improve our benefit package at all the other centers. I told him he was full of it now i need proof and i can't find anything.

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    Default Re: Need some info

    Unfortunately, without a contract, a company can pay any person whatever they want.
    The question is, would they improve pay and benefits at one terminal that hasn't petitioned, and not other terminals that have ?

    I am not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination, however I think what you are asking may fall under these guidelines.

    The National Labor Relations Act forbids employers from interfering with, restraining, or coercing employees in the exercise of rights relating to organizing, forming, joining or assisting a labor organization for collective bargaining purposes, or from working together to improve terms and conditions of employment, or refraining from any such activity. Similarly, labor organizations may not restrain or coerce employees in the exercise of these rights.
    Threatening employees with loss of jobs or benefits if they join or vote for a union or engage in protected concerted activity.
    The wording I see is "loss of benefits," which could be construed to mean, a petitioning terminal loses benefits and the non-petitioning terminals improve.
    Promising benefits to employees to discourage their union support.
    Again, if they promise something to one terminal that has not petitioned, then it sounds like it may be against NLRB rules.

    Employer/Union Rights and Obligations | NLRB
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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    Unfortunately, without a contract, a company can pay any person whatever they want.
    The question is, would they improve pay and benefits at one terminal that hasn't petitioned, and not other terminals that have ?

    I am not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination, however I think what you are asking may fall under these guidelines.




    The wording I see is "loss of benefits," which could be construed to mean, a petitioning terminal loses benefits and the non-petitioning terminals improve.

    Again, if they promise something to one terminal that has not petitioned, then it sounds like it may be against NLRB rules.

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    Thats what im asking 3 voted it in 2 more have petitions right now, could they give the other 355 terminals a raise if they wanted too? I used Conway as an example they gave their raise after the first terminal voted it in.
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    As I understand it they must give the annual raise and bonus if we receive one to all terminals regardless of voting status. If they try to keep it from the union centers the teamsters will file a ULP. The company knows this but will still let the rumormill do the dirty work for them. They can not reduce any benefits but may give pay or improved benefits with the teamsters approval. I do not see any reason a local would not approve of the annual raise or other increased benefit as it just raises their starting bargaining level for a contract. I have the following document in my saved file listed as the topic at hand. Here is a direct LINK to the file.
    Bargining Wage Freeze.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePoint View Post
    As I understand it they must give the annual raise and bonus if we receive one to all terminals regardless of voting status. If they try to keep it from the union centers the teamsters will file a ULP. The company knows this but will still let the rumormill do the dirty work for them. They can not reduce any benefits but may give pay or improved benefits with the teamsters approval. I do not see any reason a local would not approve of the annual raise or other increased benefit as it just raises their starting bargaining level for a contract. I have the following document in my saved file listed as the topic at hand. Here is a direct LINK to the file.
    Bargining Wage Freeze.jpg
    I was trying to find a particular negotiation where the local signed off on the raises for the employees at a different company. I'll keep searching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Trucker View Post
    Could somebody post a link for me where to find out about if a company like Fed Ex can give the non-union and the centers that haven't petitioned a raise with out breaking the labor laws. I got in a debate with a co-worker who seems to think as long as there is a petition at just one center it's against the law to improve our benefit package at all the other centers. I told him he was full of it now i need proof and i can't find anything.
    Seems to me your co-worker has fallen a load of misinformation.

    Since organizing and negotiations are done one location at a time, what goes on at one center has little or no effect on the others. Also, since FedEx has already announced plans to address regional pay scales (June) as well as overall compensation packages (the fall), there is no law forbidding them from going forward with those plans.

    Yes, represented locations have additional voice in the matter, but why would the members reject their portion of company wide increases? The members will and should have their say. At this stage, there would be no benefit to go against the members' wishes.

    Any other spin would be scare tactics. Nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeptDrvrAffairs View Post
    Seems to me your co-worker has fallen a load of misinformation.

    Since organizing and negotiations are done one location at a time, what goes on at one center has little or no effect on the others. Also, since FedEx has already announced plans to address regional pay scales (June) as well as overall compensation packages (the fall), there is no law forbidding them from going forward with those plans.

    Yes, represented locations have additional voice in the matter, but why would the members reject their portion of company wide increases? The members will and should have their say. At this stage, there would be no benefit to go against the members' wishes.

    Any other spin would be scare tactics. Nothing more.
    It almost sounds like the company minions Purple Hammer and her sister Redracer have been spreading their BS in the area. Add in the BS that Brock throws around and it is easy to see why all the confusion. The education process is long and for some the learning curve is quite wide. Taking your post word for word would be the best advice I could give. Concise and to the point. Bravo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePoint View Post
    As I understand it they must give the annual raise and bonus if we receive one to all terminals regardless of voting status. If they try to keep it from the union centers the teamsters will file a ULP. The company knows this but will still let the rumormill do the dirty work for them. They can not reduce any benefits but may give pay or improved benefits with the teamsters approval. I do not see any reason a local would not approve of the annual raise or other increased benefit as it just raises their starting bargaining level for a contract. I have the following document in my saved file listed as the topic at hand. Here is a direct LINK to the file.
    Bargining Wage Freeze.jpg
    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/...-drivers-raise

    Here is an example
    Last edited by 222lifer; 03-12-2015 at 11:45 AM.
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    Thanks folks

 

 

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