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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    I wouldn't do it over this. I think we should over national right-to-work ....but not this.
    Seems to me adding to the workforce actually lowers wage by increasing the labor supply.
    Many have thought this organized effort of protest is in it's infancy. We may see many more in the future including a national RTW protest!

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    It's hard to trust anymore. I imagine union leaders of low wage unions trying to move up for themselves .....at request of bigger money politicianssponsored by corporations and bankers.......and a practice run for something where we win nothing...may result in firings which result in fear....hurting morale for a much more necessary right-to-work protest/ or strike....I could actually see the globalists planning this..knowing that they are just using these low wage SEIU types...sacrificing them by suckering their leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    It's hard to trust anymore. I imagine union leaders of low wage unions trying to move up for themselves .....at request of bigger money politicianssponsored by corporations and bankers.......and a practice run for something where we win nothing...may result in firings which result in fear....hurting morale for a much more necessary right-to-work protest/ or strike....I could actually see the globalists planning this..knowing that they are just using these low wage SEIU types...sacrificing them by suckering their leaders.
    Something to put a few more thoughts in your head. There is no law against Unions organizing those that need a voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    It's hard to trust anymore. I imagine union leaders of low wage unions trying to move up for themselves .....at request of bigger money politicianssponsored by corporations and bankers.......and a practice run for something where we win nothing...may result in firings which result in fear....hurting morale for a much more necessary right-to-work protest/ or strike....I could actually see the globalists planning this..knowing that they are just using these low wage SEIU types...sacrificing them by suckering their leaders.
    Until we see a serious crackdown on those that have been raided by immigration officers and continue to provide employment for the undocumented immigrants, nothing will change. These companies need to feel it where it hurts. If the fines bankrupt them, so be it. They didn't put America first to begin with. They thought about themselves first.

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    The report said many of the demonstrators will be protesting Trump's policies that aim to restrict immigration, thus impacting many unionized labor fields.
    I can't see a benefit to this at all.
    The impact would be that fewer low wage earners might be brought in. That would mean less workers. Under their sham economic theories it would mean that there is less labor supply. That should mean higher demand for workers. That should result in higher pay and better opportunity to organize.
    I would think the unions should want less immigrants.
    Somebody on the corporate side would want more immigrants to keep wages down and be able to say "you're lucky you have a job"....anybody can do your job..type stuff to keep us down.


    This is one of the types of issues we should stay out of imo......unless the opposite was occurring where maybe the government would want to quadruple immigration in order to flood the workforce and keep us all working for nothing.

    The only thing that makes any sense to me here is conspiratorial.......it is a plot by globalist elites to bring in communism in the long run.......More workers working for nothing and really having no say in government.
    If the unions were on the increase or wages were climbing and life was improving...I may see it differently....but it's quite obvious the opposite has been occurring.
    Either these union leaders are protecting friends and family who may be illegal...or they are helping associates businesses by increasing the labor supply. Or they are looking for favors by socialist or communist politicians who serve big money for a very small amount of people to benefit..Oligarchs.

    I think we need to focus on organizing and increasing the percentage we have...before flooding the workplace with more and result being that our percentage actually shrinks more.
    This is not an action for the worker...but for the corporate elites to make things more difficult for us imo.
    I can see a lot of immigrants being scared and taking a nonunion job over a union job in todays workworld...because there are so many more nonunion than union jobs....We probably help them get in and they are left little choice but to take a job which opposes us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    I can't see a benefit to this at all.
    The impact would be that fewer low wage earners might be brought in. That would mean less workers. Under their sham economic theories it would mean that there is less labor supply. That should mean higher demand for workers. That should result in higher pay and better opportunity to organize.
    I would think the unions should want less immigrants.
    Somebody on the corporate side would want more immigrants to keep wages down and be able to say "you're lucky you have a job"....anybody can do your job..type stuff to keep us down.


    This is one of the types of issues we should stay out of imo......unless the opposite was occurring where maybe the government would want to quadruple immigration in order to flood the workforce and keep us all working for nothing.

    The only thing that makes any sense to me here is conspiratorial.......it is a plot by globalist elites to bring in communism in the long run.......More workers working for nothing and really having no say in government.
    If the unions were on the increase or wages were climbing and life was improving...I may see it differently....but it's quite obvious the opposite has been occurring.
    Either these union leaders are protecting friends and family who may be illegal...or they are helping associates businesses by increasing the labor supply. Or they are looking for favors by socialist or communist politicians who serve big money for a very small amount of people to benefit..Oligarchs.

    I think we need to focus on organizing and increasing the percentage we have...before flooding the workplace with more and result being that our percentage actually shrinks more.
    This is not an action for the worker...but for the corporate elites to make things more difficult for us imo.
    I can see a lot of immigrants being scared and taking a nonunion job over a union job in todays workworld...because there are so many more nonunion than union jobs....We probably help them get in and they are left little choice but to take a job which opposes us.
    Organizing the Unorganizable

    In September 2013, the AFL-CIO, a giant labor federation comprising fifty-six unions and 12.5 million U.S. workers, held its quadrennial convention in Los Angeles. There was plenty of what one might expect from such a gathering: lapel pins and hats with jaunty slogans, rousing speeches, and middle-aged toughs talking working-class politics. There was also a parade of low-wage workers, none of them formally members of the AFL-CIO. Immigrant nannies, Walmart clerks, day laborers, and taxi drivers appeared on stage, cheered by a sincere, if slightly flummoxed, union crowd. The intended message was clear: this is the future of the labor movement. Welcome them and pay attention.

    To understand how a once marginal coterie of low-wage immigrant workers came to be courted by mainstream unions, one must go back to the adolescence of our globalized, outsourced, service economy. In the 1990s, a wave of small nonprofits opened, first in New York then across the country. They were called worker centers—community groups that organized underclass laborers, often of the same ethnic background, and with a focus on particular industries or neighborhoods. These groups tended to be far left and non-hierarchical, turned off by the bureaucratic bloat and corruption of large unions.

    Worker centers provide clues to the future of organized labor, particularly in this moment of capitalist crisis. They now number in the hundreds, representing Chinese prep cooks and West Indian cleaners as well as African Americans doing drywall. Compared to major unions, worker centers have few members and even smaller budgets, but they are determined. Long before the 2007–09 recession and Occupy Wall Street, they forced inequality into public discourse and told personal stories of migration and hardship. The Chinese Staff and Workers’ Association (the first worker center, founded in 1979) led aggressive pickets against restaurants and garment factories in New York’s Chinatown. Community Voices Heard organized unpaid municipal employees exploited by the 1996 welfare reforms. Damayan, a Filipina worker center, exposed the indentured servitude among live-in nannies. And the Restaurant Opportunities Center and the National Mobilization Against Sweatshops fought for their members—kitchen staff and cleanup workers, respectively—to receive just compensation for the health and economic impacts of 9/11.
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    Labor Unions Move To Protect Immigrants, Regardless Of Legal Status



    For a large part of their history, labor unions cast a wary eye on immigrant workers, worried that foreign workers would hurt the leveraging power for members. But with a receding membership in recent times, unions are aggressively targeting the 22 million immigrant workers in the country, regardless of legal status, to join their ranks. Some immigrants are especially eager to join unions because many who fear deportation believe that it would improve workplace conditions without retribution. And unions are taking immigrant needs straight to the bargaining table.

    In fact, some unions now have clauses in their contract that protect against the use of programs like E-Verify and I-9 that could prevent some immigrants from getting jobs in the first place. That controversial bargaining chip is one that unions, like Unite Here, lobby for on behalf of undocumented immigrants who are the ones working in jobs that Ofello Carrillo insists no one else is taking. “That’s something we typically advocate for,” said Carrillo, the communications organizer for Unite Here Local 11 chapter.

    “We also fight to have our contracts to allow workers to regulate their legal status,” Carrillo said. “If they’re going through a process of becoming documented or some sort of legal proceedings in immigration, they’re allowed six months off the job to fix that. Then they’re allowed full seniority with the same pay and benefits, even if they change their names or change their Social Security numbers.”
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    Those are great stories and I'm glad they have somebody looking out for them. But our jobs need some attention and a boost too. The whole Trump election should show that there are very large numbers of union workers here who want better. They want focus on the people who have been here.. Whomever is behind this strike thing won't get the support they are looking for from a lot of union workers. We've been going bascvkwards for a long time...and we are not gonna want those jobs to be our future...We'd like to give those people opportunity to move up to better pay...but we can't get that because it seems the leaders are always focusing on somebody else.............................Sorry to say, but I think only maybe 2 of our guys might even want to hear about immigrants...but I doubt even they would strike over it. And we've got around 100 guys....we're broke tired and miserable and going backwards...we'd like leadership thinking about us....I can't really speak for our guys....but I'd put money on what I said.
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    May Day mass action will be a historic 'strike from below'


    Hundreds of thousands of service workers across the South and the rest of the nation are planning to take part in a general strike for human rights and equality on May Day, which marks International Workers' Day. Organizers say the May 1 Strike, which aims to express the collective power of the country's most marginalized workers and to stop attacks by the Trump administration and its corporate allies, is the biggest general-strike organizing effort in the U.S. in over 70 years.

    "The Trump administration's dangerous attacks against food worker families and all marginalized people continue a centuries-long history of oppression," the organizers said in a statement. "We will not sit by as families are shattered by immigration raids, Native sovereignty is violated, Muslims are banned, and Black and Brown communities face even more criminalization, trans people [are] excluded and while corporate interest[s] drive down wages, safety protections, organizing rights, and rapidly destroy the environment."
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    Momentum Builds for Massive West Coast May Day Strike
    Shop steward Tomas Mejia sensed something was different when 600 janitors streamed into the Los Angeles union hall February 16—far more than for a regular membership meeting. Chanting “Huelga! Huelga!” (“Strike! Strike!”), they voted unanimously to strike on May Day.

    This won’t be a strike against their employers. The janitors of SEIU United Service Workers West felt driven, Mejia says, “to strike with the community” against the raids, threats, and immigrant-bashing hate speech that the Trump administration has unleashed.
    Following the Los Angeles vote, union janitors elsewhere in California have also voted to “strike with the community” on May 1. As the meetings gathered steam, Mejia reports, workers in schools, grocery stores, restaurants, and farms started talking about joining the walkout too.

    And the strike is going on the road: SEIU-USWW is partnering with the human rights group Global Exchange, worker centers, the Southern Border Communities Coalition, and faith groups to organize a “Caravan against Fear” that will tour California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas in April, staging rallies, cultural events, direct action trainings, and community strike votes leading up to May Day.
    Momentum Builds for Massive West Coast May Day Strike - Working In These Times

 

 
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