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    Whose Debt?


    I just watched a video about the "national debt." It went on and on about fiscal responsibility, the problem with the deficit, how bad it is now, and the projections for how it will get a lot worse. But underlying the seemingly virtuous message was a huge, utterly insane assumption--the assumption underlying almost all discussion you'll hear about such things: the notion that there can BE a "national debt."

    In literal terms, without the authoritarian propaganda spin, here is how things work: A bunch of liars and crooks, declaring themselves to be our rightful rulers, steal tons and tons of money from the rest of us. They then spend far MORE than they steal, and declare that the difference, the debt, is OUR responsibility. And almost everyone accepts that as true.

    It's not.

    Those wearing the label of "government" borrowed money from people, promising to pay it back. How would they do that? By continually taxing you and me. EVERYONE, Americans and foreigners, who bought Treasury bonds, or by any other means loaned money to any government, on the promise that the government would later pay it back, was banking on the fact that the tyrants would be able to continue robbing YOU and ME. That is how "investments" in all levels of "government," from federal stuff down to local "municipal bonds," work.

    To be blunt, if you were one of those who invested in SLAVERY, by lending money to "governments"--whether here or anywhere else--you DESERVE to lose everything, and I hope you do. The notion that I somehow acquired some obligation to pay YOU something, because a thief promised to keep on robbing me to pay for things HE bought, without my consent, is idiotic. It's also an insult to my intelligence and yours.

    So why aren't Americans outraged? Because they're indoctrinated and/or stupid. Imagine that a thief steals your wallet. He then goes on a shopping spree, buying $300 worth of stuff. Then, to his horror, he finds that you only had $200 in your wallet. To fix the problem, he sends YOU a bill for the remaining $100 "deficit."
    Would you feel obligated to pay up?

    Well, if the thief called himself "government," and you're an average American, apparently you would. And then you would get together with all the other duped morons, wring your hands, and ponder what can be done about the problem. But the problem is not one of finances; it's one of philosophy. As long as you think YOU are obligated to make up for the scams of the crooks who call themselves "government," you are doomed. If you think they'll ever cut back on their power (spending, regulation, taxation) to be nice to YOU, you're an idiot. They will happily borrow and spend you into absolute poverty.

    To those of you stupid and/or evil enough to have loaned money to the U.S. government, or to any other government, on the promise that they'd later rob people like ME to pay you back, I wish you the worst of luck. I hope you never see a dime of what you "invested" in the slavery industry. And don't tell ME I have some obligation to pay off a debt that POLITICIANS incurred. When you're talking to me, don't use such idiotic terms as "national debt." The nation doesn't owe anyone anything. The people who SPENT the money-- the crooks in DC--might owe it. I don't.

    There's a very easy way to fix the "federal budget deficit" and "national debt" problems: ignore them out of existence. To any who have invested in oppression and government extortion, the joke's on you. You're not quite as bad as the thieves you financed, but you're pretty darn bad. And when the day comes, which is fast approaching, when all your "investments" disappear, don't come crying to me. You deserve it, for the exact same reason that people who invested in the slave trade industry two hundred years ago deserved to lose everything. Next time, try investing in trade, instead of theft.



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    LOAD AND PARK CHARLIE
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    Sounds like a side by side comparison, to the corporate melt down we are seeing in the private sector. These Companies spend like drunken sailors, make poor business decisions, and expect us to bail them out.

    Looks like big business saw the governments business model, and adopted it in whole. And while we as people should be outraged, there is little we can do about it.

    For this is the system, that has been in place for ever. Big business, and our Government use other peoples money. Our money

    If they make good decisions, profits are realized, if they make poor decisions, we pay the bill. Good work if you can get it...

 

 

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