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    Default Obama's spending: Runaway or reasonable?

    This just might throw an ax into one of the biggest debates on TOL. Something that us so called liberals have been trying to point out since Obama was elected.
    Republicans say he is, and Democrats say he isn't. And they both use numbers and past presidents' records to make their point.

    Trouble is, "you can make the numbers tell you what you want if you torture them enough," said Rudolph Penner, a former director of the Congressional Budget Office.

    Here's what we know about spending and deficits during the Obama administration: They started climbing sharply in late 2008, even before he took office, and have remained high since.
    Obama's spending: Runaway or reasonable? - Yahoo! Finance

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    Default Re: Obama's spending: Runaway or reasonable?

    Republican's had no problem when Reagan tripled the defecit, thing is the Republican's just want to cut programs that help the middle class and poor. They want to stop the spending than let's start with are National Defense which takes 53% of are budget. we spend more on National Defense than the entire Western World put together, why back in the 70's and 80's we were told that we had to because of the cold war, well thats over, but we still spend mare and more on Defense (All Defense contract are usually no-bid contracts) guess who makes money off this? So those who defend are spending on Defense tell me who is the enemy today and why we should keep spending?

    A quote from a well known Socialist,

    Each one of those tanks represents a classroom, with a teacher, stolen from your children.

    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are clothed"

    This world in arms is not spending money alone.

    It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of tis scientists, the hopes of its children.

    The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

    It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

    It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.

    It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

    We pay for a single destroyer with new homes a that could have housed more than 8.000 people.

    This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.

    This is not a way of life at, all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

    But this was no Socialist, it was a famous American General and Republican,

    "President Dwight D. Eisenhower"

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    Default Re: Obama's spending: Runaway or reasonable?

    Yeah that sounds like Eisenhower any chance getting a link to that
    Eisenhower entered the 1952 presidential race as a Republican, to counter the non-interventionism of Senator Robert A. Taft, and to crusade against "Communism, Korea and corruption." He won by a landslide, defeating Democrat Adlai Stevenson and ending two decades of the New Deal Coalition. In the first year of his presidency Eisenhower deposed the leader of Iran in the 1953 Iranian coup d'etat, and used nuclear threats to conclude the Korean War with China. His New Look policy of nuclear deterrence gave priority to inexpensive nuclear weapons while reducing the funding for conventional military forces; the goal was to keep pressure on the Soviet Union and reduce federal deficits. In 1954 Eisenhower first articulated the Domino theory in his description of the threat presented by the spread of communism. The Congress agreed to his request in 1955 for the Formosa Resolution, which enabled him to prevent Chinese communist aggression against Chinese nationalists and established U.S. policy of defending Taiwan. When the Soviets launched Sputnik in 1957 he had to play catchup in the space race. Eisenhower forced Israel, the UK and France to end their invasion of Egypt during the Suez Crisis of 1956. In 1958 he sent 15,000 US troops to Lebanon to prevent the pro-Western government falling to a Nasser-inspired revolution. Near the end of his term, his efforts to set up a summit meeting with the Soviets collapsed because of the U-2 incident when an American spy plane was shot down over Russia and its pilot captured.[4]

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    Default Re: Obama's spending: Runaway or reasonable?

    Quote Details: Dwight D. Eisenhower: Every gun that is... - The Quotations Page

    Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
    Dwight D. Eisenhower, From a speech before the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953
    34th president of US 1953-1961 (1890 - 1969)

 

 

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