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    Default Re: Mitt Romney Set To Pick Paul Ryan As Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Yes my wife, I did edit it ty. Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid etc
    So your wife is entitled to it and I believe she is but what I don't get is you want others to lose theirs..Where do you draw the line on who gets what??I know that I myself have put in well over $125,000 into Social Security and it pisses me off when someone calls it a "entitlement"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Yes my wife, I did edit it ty. Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid etc
    So, you just stated that social security is an entitlement.
    That would mean, by your own statement that your wife and yourself are on the entitlement program.
    Not to mention Medicare.
    So how is something you pay for with deductions from your earnings an entitlement ?

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    Default Re: Mitt Romney Set To Pick Paul Ryan As Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    So your wife is entitled to it and I believe she is but what I don't get is you want others to lose theirs..Where do you draw the line on who gets what??I know that I myself have put in well over $125,000 into Social Security and it pisses me off when someone calls it a "entitlement"..
    What do I want others to lose that I won't lose myself? Any changes will affect our kids not us. I don't think social security is as big a problem as Medicare or Medicaid. At some point congress will have to increase the social security tax and raise the age. Health care cost is out of control

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    What are entitlements??
    you surely ask this knowing what the answer is. If not then how about the WIC program, head start, heap, help with housing,food stanps,ss disabilty,earn income credit on taxes when no taxes are paid. Shall i go on? these are just a few things the american people seem to think they are entitled to!

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    Default Re: Mitt Romney Set To Pick Paul Ryan As Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by dgfcby View Post
    you surely ask this knowing what the answer is. If not then how about the WIC program, head start, heap, help with housing,food stanps,ss disabilty,earn income credit on taxes when no taxes are paid. Shall i go on? these are just a few things the american people seem to think they are entitled to!
    I understand that some of these programs are considered entitlements,but what I don't see is that the right winged conservatives consider Social Security a entitlement where I see it as something I have payed into for the last 45 years..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    I understand that some of these programs are considered entitlements,but what I don't see is that the right winged conservatives consider Social Security a entitlement where I see it as something I have payed into for the last 45 years..
    I also agree that social security is not an entitlement. what i don't see is how liberals (obama administration) want's the rich to pay there fair share(who decides what is fair) and the bottom 49% of workers pay 0 taxes and receive most of the entitlements. when obama say's in a campaign ad that everyone needs to pay their fair share I agree, just not with whom he wants to pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgfcby View Post
    I also agree that social security is not an entitlement. what i don't see is how liberals (obama administration) want's the rich to pay there fair share(who decides what is fair)
    Perhaps the same percentage of taxes based on any income would be a start.

    and the bottom 49% of workers pay 0 taxes and receive most of the entitlements. when obama say's in a campaign ad that everyone needs to pay their fair share I agree, just not with whom he wants to pay
    Let's clarify the statement about people that pay no tax.

    Low incomes (or, if you prefer, the standard deduction and personal exemptions) account for fully half of the people who pay no federal income tax.

    The second reason is that for many senior citizens, Social Security benefits are exempt from federal income taxes. That accounts for about 22% of the people who pay no federal income tax.

    The third reason is that America uses the tax code to provide benefits to low-income families, particularly those with children. Taken together, the earned income tax credit, the child credit, and the childcare credit account for about 15% of the people who pay no federal income tax.

    Taken together, those three factors — incomes that fall below the standard deduction and personal exemptions; the exemption for most Social Security benefits; and tax benefits aimed at low-income families and children — account for almost 90% of the Americans who pay no federal income tax.
    People who don't pay federal taxes still pay other taxes.

    The true fact — about half of Americans do not pay federal income taxes – often gets transmogrified in public discourse into the decidedly untrue claim that half of Americans pay no taxes. That simply isn’t so. There are many other taxes in our fair land, including payroll taxes, excise taxes, sales taxes, state income taxes, and property taxes.
    Why Do Half of Americans Pay No Federal Income Tax? « Donald Marron

    IMO, most people understand how difficult it would be to raise a family of 4 if you earned less then $26400.
    Yet others seem to feel that it's OK for the wealthy to pay a lower percentage on millions of dollars of income then what a middle class wage earner pays on a truck drivers income.

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    Default Re: Mitt Romney Set To Pick Paul Ryan As Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    IMO, most people understand how difficult it would be to raise a family of 4 if you earned less then $26400.
    Yet others seem to feel that it's OK for the wealthy to pay a lower percentage on millions of dollars of income then what a middle class wage earner pays on a truck drivers income.
    IMO,most union members lament the fact that the membership of the union is on the decline. They want to blame the big bad corporate america. Not just this adminastration (going on for decades) but the biggest enemy is the UNITED STATES GOVERMENT with all their free handout programs! How can unions compete to get their workers a fair wage and benifit package when the goverment gives it for free. A truck driver (or any worker) should not have to raise a family of 4 on 26,400. The entitlement programs are out of control. A worker will turn down a raise or promotion because "They will cut my benifits"WE HAVE TO CUT SPENDING if paul ryan has a plan for that than he's got my vote
    Last edited by x475; 08-13-2012 at 12:00 AM. Reason: fixed quote

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    Here is more on Ryan's plan. A plan that will insure the middle class pays more in taxes while his wealthy friends pay less ... much less.

    The House Republican budget for the 2013 fiscal year, passed by the House in June, would raise taxes by $1,358 for jointly-filing households earning between $50,000 and $100,000, assuming the additional income is taxed at a 10 percent rate, according to a report published earlier this summer by the Joint Economic Committee of Congress.

    Households with incomes between $100,000 and $200,000 would see their taxes increase by $2,681, the Joint Economic Committee said.

    Rep. Ryan's office did not return a request for comment.

    The committee reported Ryan's budget plan would give the richest Americans -- those who make over $1 million -- a tax break of about $300,000.


    Yes, this seems fair. Today we all pay more while the rich elitists pay less.

    According to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, Ryan's budget plan would make the Bush tax breaks permanent, including the extra tax cuts on taxable household income above $250,000, and would cut the top tax rate paid by the wealthiest Americans and the corporate income tax rate by nearly 30 percent.
    Paul Ryan Tax Plan Could Raise Middle Class Taxes, Said Panel - Yahoo! News

    What a disaster for the middle class the Romney-Ryan ticket would be.
    It really seems that class warfare is the key word.
    What reasonable person thinks the middle class should pay more then someone who makes over 1 million dollars ?

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    Default Re: Mitt Romney Set To Pick Paul Ryan As Running Mate

    Romney and Ryan to restore the American dream

    Obama and the stooge Biden for big government, taxes and more debt

 

 
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