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    Why do we (The U.S.) seem to be pushing for a War with Russia, how long do we think it will be before Putin sends in the Russian Army to defend ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine(who voted to join Russia) who are being exterminated by a bunch of (US) finance Nazi's. Here a good article on how we the tax payer are picking up the tab!


    U.S. House Votes 98% to Donate U.S. Weapons to Ukraine; U.S. Public Is 67% Against. Is This Democracy?

    It's funny how we are not told that the American taxpayer will pick up the tab since the Ukraine doesn't have the money!!


    And this is nothing new, Page 266,267 ""Our Occulted History" by Jim Marrs;

    James G. Watt, former interior secretary in the Reagan administration, saw the manipulation of the insiders firsthand. "For years I had been irritated by "right wingers" who came to whisper about the Council on Foreign Relationers and The Trilateral Commission...Now, after sitting in the cabinet room of the White House in meeting ofter meeting listening to President Reagan's advisors, I am of different opinion," Watt related.

    "A most telling incident happen one morning in the spring of 1982. As President Reagan sat down with us cabinet officers, he announced that Dan Regan (then treasury secretary) would share an economic report and that David Stockman (then budget director) would have some comments to make. Secretary Regan led off the cabinet meeting by reporting that several American banks were owed alarming sums of money by some third worlds countries. So destitute were these nations, he said, that not even the interest on these loans could be paid back to the Bank of America, Chase Manhattan, Citibank, and others. Secretary Regan urged sending tax-payers dollars through the International Monetary Fund to these nations, enabling them to make interest payments to the U.S. Banks....I asked if anyone believe these countries could ever pay back any of the principal. Silence! Did anyone believe these loans for the payment of interest would ever be paid back? When most of my colleagues just stared at the table, I pressed on. Then why, at our taxpayers expense, do we keep bailing out these countries? Annoyance erupted around the table: Jim. these American banks will be in jeopardy if those loans are in default by lack of interest payments. I countered, "does that mean American bank customers would lose money?" No, they hotly responded, but investors might lose some dividends. Incredulous, I leaned back from the cabinet table and watched the President, seated only two chairs away. Absolutely nothing was going to stop those cabinet officers from bailing out a few powerful U.S. bank. President Reagan was given no other option.

    Watt still believed in Dichotomy of "liberal" versus "conservative" and did not realize that the power behind such un-American decision was not due simply to "shared values" of"liberal ideals", but rather to the power of the international money changers operating behind the scenes who MANAGE BOTH MAJOR PARTIES.


    Once again we the taxpayers pick up the tab, how much longer are we the "Taxpayer going to take it" our pensions are being mess with along with S.S. medicare and so on. There is a reason why we are spending 30 to 40 million dollars to make the local police more like the military and we are becoming more and more of a police state, cause sooner of later the middle class is going to say enough is enough and it will be taken to the streets of America. and the money handlers know it. Our Repersentatives don't seem to have our interest at heart as in the first article mentions only 10 voted no, five democrats and 5 republicans, but they know best were to spend our money, ya right!!
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    There is always two sides to look at.. I see where your coming from but IMO if the ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine(who voted to join Russia) want to be Russian,then let them move back to Russia.. Have you ever been to the Coney Island area of Brooklyn??? It has a large population of Russian immigrants and what would you say if they posed the same thing.. Should the US give that area to Russia because there are people that want it.. Also IMO the US should stay out of the problem over there period.. We have enough problems here ..
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    We are there because of the banks imo.
    I pretty much agree with Sayhey's post. Too many things I've seen and read leads me to believe that our whole economic system is a scam/sham from the top which are the banks. They make and teach the economic rules and ideals that everybody is supposed to believe in and follow, yet they follow none of them. They are the most traitorous, freeloading, powerhungry greedy slavedriving moneygrubbin welfare bums on the planet and should be thrown out of DC by the beltloops ASAP.
    Every import that takes our jobs, cuts pay, forces concessions is their doing. They want the market to decide for everybody yet manipulate it for themselves.

    The trade deals are so they don't lose money they loaned at our expense.

    Mexico and Latin America owed tons when Carter was in.......then comes NAFTA.
    Imo that's why NAFTA exists. Take everything American unions/ workers earned and destroy it all for lowlife bankers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    There is always two sides to look at.. I see where your coming from but IMO if the ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine(who voted to join Russia) want to be Russian,then let them move back to Russia.. Have you ever been to the Coney Island area of Brooklyn??? It has a large population of Russian immigrants and what would you say if they posed the same thing.. Should the US give that area to Russia because there are people that want it.. Also IMO the US should stay out of the problem over there period.. We have enough problems here ..
    One, did you know that Kiev,the Capital of the Ukraine was at one time the Capital of Russia? so there are lots of ethnic Russians in the Ukraine so maybe they have a right to go back to Russia, secondly the man they voted for in the Eastern part of the country President Viktor Yanckouych was over thrown in a coup, sponsor by foreign nationals (US and it's Western puppets) to put in a pro-western President,(We the US do this all the time,) who really could care less about the people of the Ukraine, it's all about Western Corporations, and Bankers taking control of their economy(they are now in debt to western bankers). Getting back to Putin he could take the Ukraine any time he likes and has not, but how long will he let ethnic Russians get killed by a bunch of Nazi, if it was the US we would have already been in there, what was the BS reason that we send in the Marines to Grenada? to save the med students? who were not at risk at all, plus the med school it is said to be only 500 yards from the beach. Marines in, Marines and med students out no one gets killed It seems that we can do whatever we want, but the Russian can't. And the coup that we sponsor, am sure we paid for that too, like we have all the money for all this, whats our National debt, how many Trillions? If this doesn't change Austerity will be coming to America and IMO austerity doesn't work, it will just put all of us into the poor house,all but the 1%, but than again WW3 would change all that and austerity wouldn't be on our minds would it the war would be and it will not be like WW2 American city will fall!

    And, oh i forgot about the sanctions against Russia, i hope ever one here knows that sanctions against another country is a "Act of War"

    WORLD WAR III IS ALL THAT


    Once again we can you can't,

    Demonizing Russia as US goes to war – Wake Up From Your Slumber !


    And do we really want war with Russia, it's not going to be like war with Iraq thats for sure.

    https://www.intellihub.com/10-signs-...united-states/

    » Russians Disable U.S. Guided Missile Destroyer Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


    And we spend a lot more money on defense than they do, were does it all go?

    I read the new F-35 has nothing but problems and is a piece of junk,

    Pentagon


    Maybe we need a man like JFK in the white house today, here a small simple of what Kennedy had to go threw.


    The strains between the generals and their commander in chief showed up in exasperating ways. When Bundy asked the Joint Chiefs’ staff director for a copy of the blueprint for nuclear war, the general at the other end of the line said, “We never release that.” Bundy explained, “I don’t think you understand. I’m calling for the president and he wants to see [it].” The chiefs’ reluctance was understandable: their Joint Strategic Capabilities Plan foresaw the use of 170 atomic and hydrogen bombs in Moscow alone; the destruction of every major Soviet, Chinese, and Eastern European city; and hundreds of millions of deaths. Sickened by a formal briefing on the plan, Kennedy turned to a senior administration official and said, “And we call ourselves the human race.

    The whole article if you want to read it.

    JFK vs. the Military - The Atlantic

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    If it's War we want, than in the end it will be War

    http://rt.com/politics/213807-americ...roops-ukraine/

    Also look who profits i wonder who is paying for this;

    Ukraine to Double Military Budget, Conscript 40,000 for Eastern War -- News from Antiwar.com

    Also:

    LiveLeak.com - 1st US arms manufacturer agrees to sell arms to Ukraine

    We seem to glorify war, maybe those so eager for for war should read this Mark Twains "War Prayer"

    The War Prayer, by Mark Twain


    War is the devils domain, not the Lord's. It's misery on his children, on both the winning and the losing side. The only people who win at war are the corporate elites and bankers who profit greatly from it, so now we know who the truly evil one's are!! You can throw in are politicians too, hell let them go fight the war since they are pushing it so badly, we will stay home and watch it on TV, gee look at that senator it looks like he freezing, Honey could you get me another beer while your up, and it's a bit chilly in here could you turn up the heat a bit, this is great stuff on TV it looks like the Senator is having a tough time of it, maybe next time he will not vote to go to war when he's got to fight it, not us.
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    Somebody wants war.......but it ain't "we".
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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    Somebody wants war.......but it ain't "we".


    War Drums Beat Louder & Faster Between U.S. & Russia

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    My kids ain't going to fight for these bankers BS. They and their kids can go. Now isnt soon enough.
    Nobody's kids should go. If its the banks problem they can go fight it. It ain't our business and we are broke.

 

 
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