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    Portugal has a 4 day run using only renewable power, right after Germany reported they also ran on renewable power.
    It can be done. Oil and gas is not the only energy source.

    Portugal kept its lights on with renewable energy alone for four consecutive days last week in a clean energy milestone revealed by data analysis of national energy network figures.

    Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says.

    News of the zero emissions landmark comes just days after Germany announced that clean energy had powered almost all its electricity needs on Sunday 15 May, with power prices turning negative at several times in the day – effectively paying consumers to use it.

    In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK.
    Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone | Environment | The Guardian
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    Default Re: Even Tumbling Fossil Fuel Prices Can't Deter Clean Energy Revolution

    Again, an entire country, Scotland, has run an entire day on renewable energy.

    Charlie Sorrel 08.23.16 6:30 AM

    As the world enjoys month after month of the hottest weather ever recorded, more and more countries (like Portugal and Costa Rica) are proving that renewables can provide enough electricity to exceed their entire power needs. Scotland is the latest to join the club: its wind turbines recently supplied its entire energy needs for one day.

    On Sunday August 14, Scotland’s wind turbines pumped 39,545 megawatt-hours (MWh) of electricity into the grid, while the country’s entire consumption was 37,202 MWh. That includes homes, factories, businesses, everything.
    Time for the naysayers to chime in again too ... usually something about birds, or no sunlight ...

    https://www.fastcoexist.com/3063068/...newables-alone

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    Default Re: Even Tumbling Fossil Fuel Prices Can't Deter Clean Energy Revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    Again, an entire country, Scotland, has run an entire day on renewable energy.



    Time for the naysayers to chime in again too ... usually something about birds, or no sunlight ...

    https://www.fastcoexist.com/3063068/...newables-alone
    I believe it had to do with the extremely heavy winds that day..

    http://www.natureworldnews.com/artic...r-turbines.htm

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    Speaking of winds ... ( no, I don't mean strappy )

    Imagine a wind turbine so humongous it’d tower over the Washington Monument, jutting into the skyline and making itself visible many miles away. This vision of the future might not be far from reality, as turbines continue to get larger and more energetically ferocious.

    With wind energy established across much of the world, some have wondered if turbine technology has hit a limit in terms of size and generation versus cost. Researchers from the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and elsewhere interviewed 163 international wind experts, and in Nature Energy state the conclusion that no, they’re bound to get bigger yet.
    Technology and innovation will stop for no one. Not even for pollution loving oil slaves.

    The Future of Wind Turbines Is Big, Literally - CityLab

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    I am sure I mentioned elsewhere about the solar panel farms in Texas.
    This story again tells us the solar ( and wind ) should be used and can supply the needs of many areas.

    Texas has enough sun and wind to quit coal, Rice researchers say
    Texas might have the perfect environment to quit coal for good.
    Texas is one of the only places where the natural patterns of wind and sun could produce power around the clock, according to new research from Rice University.
    Scientists found that between wind energy from West Texas and the Gulf Coast, and solar energy across the state, Texas could meet a significant portion of its electricity demand from renewable power without extensive battery storage. The reason: These sources generate power at different times of day, meaning that coordinating them could replace production from coal-fired plants.
    Texas is the largest producer of wind energy in the United States, generating about 18 percent of its electricity from wind. Most of the state’s wind turbines are located in West Texas, where the wind blows the strongest at night and in the early spring, when demand is low.
    Coal still generates about 25 percent of the state’s power, but its share is shrinking. Since 2007, coal used in generating electricity has decreased 36 percent. Last year, Vistra Energy of Dallas shut down three coal-fired plants in Texas, citing changing economics in the power industry that make it difficult for coal to compete.
    Yet the coal purveyors still hold out hope that coal use will increase.
    Like thinking that coal oil lamps will replace electricity someday.

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bus...e-13501700.php
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    Default Re: Even Tumbling Fossil Fuel Prices Can't Deter Clean Energy Revolution

    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    I am sure I mentioned elsewhere about the solar panel farms in Texas.
    This story again tells us the solar ( and wind ) should be used and can supply the needs of many areas.

    Texas has enough sun and wind to quit coal, Rice researchers say




    Yet the coal purveyors still hold out hope that coal use will increase.
    Like thinking that coal oil lamps will replace electricity someday.

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bus...e-13501700.php
    It's a huge deal here out west. We don't get to do our day trips around NM much anymore with husband being a road driver but when we do we see more wind turbines in new areas. Has anyone been out by the Palm Springs/Yucca Valley are of CA? Every time we pay CA a visit and take that southern route, the wind farm has grown by leaps and bounds. I hate to say it but it is very ugly to look at against the beautiful mountains there.
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    I am sure I could have placed this story in any number of threads.

    A $150 Million Power Plant Was Just Built in Texas. Humanity Should Pray It Succeeds
    In the Texas city of La Porte, about 30 miles outside of Houston, the power plant of the future generates enough electricity to power 5,000 homes simultaneously. It burns old-fashioned fossil fuels--and yet produces no carbon emissions.

    Sound impossible?

    Net Power, the Durham-based startup behind the plant, is on a mission to prove that it's not only possible but also a potential solution to one of the biggest contributors to climate change. If all goes well, the plant will be the first of many like it around the globe.
    The Texas plant, which first fired up in May, can produce 25 Megawatts, enough to power all the homes in a medium-sized town simultaneously.The Texas plant cost $150 million to build, and Brown says that the price of running it will be on par with that of a conventional power plant--clearly, a critical factor for wide adoption.
    "We've got to make it cheaper than polluting systems," Brown says. "Here in the U.S., we tend to think that if we can afford it, then the system works. But that's not good enough. We've got to make it so cheap that China and India will choose it, and developing nations will be able to afford it."
    Net Power isn't the only company trying to change the way the world generates energy. Arizona-based Depcom build solar energy power plants. Last year, five years after its founding, it reached No. 5 on the Inc. 5000 list of the fastest-growing private companies in the U.S. Wind farms are also on the rise: Wind provided nearly 7 percent of the U.S.'s total energy supply in 2018, up from 1 percent a decade earlier.
    https://www.inc.com/kevin-j-ryan/net...l-warming.html

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    Default Re: Even Tumbling Fossil Fuel Prices Can't Deter Clean Energy Revolution

    Even Tumbling Fossil Fuel Prices Can't Deter Clean Energy Revolution...Unless your in Wyoming and have Republican socialistic program

    Bill to save coal power plants signed, skeptics abound | State | buffalobulletin.com

    A bill signed by Gov. Mark Gordon on Friday aims to keep Wyoming's coal-fired power plants online and in business by requiring a utility to try to sell the facility first before decommissioning it.

    But critics see the move as temporarily extending the life of outdated and costly coal-fired plants at the expense of consumers and taxpayers.

    Senate File 159, sponsored by Sen. Dan Dockstader, R-Afton, would force power companies who wish to decommission a coal-fired power plant to seek a buyer first. If a new company bought the plant, the bill requires the utility that sold the plant to buy back the power, even if a cheaper source is available.

    While the bill was popular with many in the Legislature, outside of the temporary Capitol, there are those who remain skeptical, at best, about SF 159. Many see it as Wyoming state government interfering in the free market, and keeping utility providers from seeking the most cost-effective way to provide energy to customers.

    "They're asking the citizens of Wyoming who pay energy to pay more to keep coal plants going. In one sense, it's a very socialist program," said Jason Shogren, the Stroock Chair of Natural Resource Conservation and Management at the University of Wyoming. "The economics of it is clear. It's asking ratepayers to pay more, for consumers to subsidizes producers."
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    I am sure many will dismiss these findings.

    It’s cheaper to replace most coal plants with renewables than keep them open, per report
    It would be more expensive to keep the majority of U.S. coal plants open than to replace them with new wind and solar power alternatives, according to new findings published Monday.
    Authored by the environmental firm Energy Innovation in partnership with the grid analysis company Vibrant Clean Energy, the research finds that replacing 74 percent of coal plants nationally with wind and solar power would immediately reduce power costs, with wind power in particular at times cutting the cost almost in half. By 2025, the analysis indicates, around 86 percent of coal plants could similarly be at risk of cheaper replacement by renewables.
    “America has officially entered the ‘coal cost crossover’ – where existing coal is increasingly more expensive than cleaner alternatives,” the report argues.
    Using a data set of coal, wind, and solar costs, the report contrasts the cost of generating energy at coal plants against costs associated with potential wind or solar hubs in the nearby area. The report only examines the “local” area — defined as 35 miles from a given coal plant — to determine whether the plant has the potential to be replaced by cheaper renewables within that zone.
    The findings are stark even on a local level: 211 gigawatts (GW) of existing U.S. coal capacity as of the end of 2017 is at risk from renewable energy alternatives capable of providing the same amount of energy at a cheaper price. Within six years, that number increases to 246 GW, or nearly the entire U.S. fleet.
    In fact, more coal plants shut down during Trump’s first two years in office than during former President Barack Obama’s entire first term. U.S. coal consumption also dropped to its lowest rate in nearly 40 years in 2018.
    https://thinkprogress.org/replacing-...-40a3ff82c2fd/
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    Default Re: Even Tumbling Fossil Fuel Prices Can't Deter Clean Energy Revolution

    Let's piggyback on the last post #19.
    A few that used to frequent this forum claimed renewables would never work.
    The wind stops blowing ... the sun stops shining ...

    FPL announces plan to build the world's largest solar-powered battery
    JUNO BEACH, Fla., March 28, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- Florida Power & Light Company, one of the nation's cleanest energy companies, today announced a plan to build the world's largest solar-powered battery system – four times the capacity of the largest battery system in operation – as part of an innovative modernization plan that will accelerate the retirement of two fossil fuel generation units.
    The FPL Manatee Energy Storage Center is part of an innovative modernization plan to accelerate the retirement of two, 1970s-era natural gas generating units at FPL's neighboring power plant, and replace them with clean and renewable energy. In addition to the energy storage system in Manatee County, FPL is planning smaller battery installations across the state, numerous solar power plants and efficiency upgrades to existing combustion turbines at other power plants to replace the 1,638 megawatts of generating capacity. The project will save customers more than $100 million and eliminate more than 1 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions.
    For nearly two decades, FPL has methodically modernized its power generation fleet and transformed it into one of the cleanest and most efficient in the country, saving customers nearly $10 billion and eliminating more than 130 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions since 2001.
    FPL also remains poised to eliminate its only remaining coal plant in Florida by the end of this year. The company also shut down two coal plants in Jacksonville in 2016 and 2018, respectively, collectively preventing nearly 7 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions annually while saving customers tens of millions of dollars in fuel and operating costs.
    https://www.floridatrend.com/article...owered-battery
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