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    Default Re: Sanders: DNC vetoed union leader pick for platform committee

    Was Jimmy Hoffa Jewish or Italian
    Local 429 is my Local. It covers Lebanon, Schuylkill and Berks Counties. I ran into a guy who signed his name Hoffa on the freight bill. He asked if I knew anybody by that name, knowing New Penn is based in Lebanon and that we are Teamsters. He is Hoffa Jr's cousin. He met Hoffa senior a few times. Hoffa senior was not Jewish. He was PA Dutch ....stubborn is a quality. I'm surrounded by them and am 1/4 Dutch myself. His grandparents are buried on the Schuylkill/Lebanon county line.

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    Bernie is not really some kind of murderous threat to Christianity. He seems very honest and genuine and well-intentioned. And very intelligent as a whole lot of Jewish people are. His wife went to Catholic Schools and she may even be a Catholic today.
    My concern is with what happens if he gets in and then croaks. After setting up his socialist thing.
    Alot of people seem to think that somehow we are all just gonna live in peace by some kind of Democratic vote. But the struggle will always exist. The Jews believe they are God's chosen people. The Muslims think that they are doing God's will. The Catholics do also. The pagan Hindus also. And the Buddhist also. So do the Masons think they can bring all together......I don't see anybody stopping any of that through government ....but I think the liberals believe they can try.....and if they rule....what do they do to those who will not leave their religious beliefs for the liberal substitute for religion, which seems to be education, science and government ....all of which change with politics and times?

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    Default Re: Sanders: DNC vetoed union leader pick for platform committee

    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    Was Jimmy Hoffa Jewish or Italian
    Local 429 is my Local. It covers Lebanon, Schuylkill and Berks Counties. I ran into a guy who signed his name Hoffa on the freight bill. He asked if I knew anybody by that name, knowing New Penn is based in Lebanon and that we are Teamsters. He is Hoffa Jr's cousin. He met Hoffa senior a few times. Hoffa senior was not Jewish. He was PA Dutch ....stubborn is a quality. I'm surrounded by them and am 1/4 Dutch myself. His grandparents are buried on the Schuylkill/Lebanon county line.
    I thought I has also heard he was dutch in a book I read about him.

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    Default Re: Sanders: DNC vetoed union leader pick for platform committee

    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    The GOP has disliked Trump due to things such as his stance on social security. He won't get rid of it but says he'll make it better.

    There was a capitalism which existed before Reagan and the Bush takeover of the GOP. And it wasn't so free trade.
    ''It's all a gamble'',remember Slave,your words and not that long ago.And your absolutely correct,but Capitalism has to work for 'ALL AMERICANS',and as we all know,not even close.The idea of Capitalism is force fed to all of us within the US culture at the 'SAME' level as Religion.It's 'NEVER' associated with War,Exploitation,Oppression,Lack of Opportunity,Discrimination or Poverty.It's sold to us as the 'PRODUCER' of Peace,Prosperity and Plenty.Most people Slave,through no fault of their own,have been defrauded of a Political Education.And the 'VACUMM'S' been very carefully and Brilliantly filled with 'CORPORATE PROPAGANDA'.

    Henry Ford knew if you don't pay your workers a living wage,they can't buy the product.It's just simple math.But today,it's much better to 'PAY' that CEO $18 Million and when he screws up,'PAY' him another $18 Million to get him gone.The 'WORKER' on the line who has to have Surgery? 'FIRE HER',she makes too much money anyway.

    The Capitalists have done a great job of 'SELLING' to the American People that 'UNIONS',and 'ORGANIZING' Unions was Bad and Un-American.Only Corporations were good.Bosses that don't give people breaks in the chicken processing plants so that the Workers have to wear diapers.Corporations that 'DEMAND' Massive Tax Breaks from cities,and then move out of the area when the 5 or 10 years is up.Bosses that 'DEMAND' 128 Times what his workers make,and when he screws up,he gets a 'GOLDEN PARACHUTE' worth Millions of dollars.But that Single Mother working 3rd Shift who has to take off to care for a sick child?'FIRE HER',She's just a piece of :(:(:(:( and not worth 'THEIR' Trouble.Yes,Capitalism at it's finest!!

    So you see Slave,the bottom line is this,what has made Trump and Sanders so hard to 'DEFLATE','DEFEAT' or 'DERAIL' is that 'BOTH' candidates,whatever their downsides,have given 'VOICE' to what's churning in the 'BELLY' of America this year.It's a 'VOLCANIC' anger among middle-class Americans over being cut out of their fair share of America's economic growth and being denied a serious voice in Government.

    11 Million plus votes cast for Trump and nearly 10 Million for Sanders 'REFLECT' far more than opposition to other candidates.They represent 'POPULIST' anger to Corporate America,and an 'EROSION' in Public Faith in 'AMERICAN DEMOCRACY' and in the 'CURRENT VERSION' of 'AMERICAN CAPITALISM'.

    Reclaim the American Dream - It's Up To Us.

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    I understand very much what the Sanders supporters are saying. And yes it is all a gamble.
    But socialism/communism doesn't look to me like it will do much more for workers.
    I know oligarchy has been a term given to American capitalism but that word, and feel free to correct me if wrong, is a term which was previously used as part definition to communism.....a few benefit whilst the rest work for nothing. Working like the Chinese all day all week doesn't seem very appealing to me.
    Money most probably always rule.....and by spreading ours to care for everybody will leave us as workers very little to rule anything.


    Busting up businesses such as Bell and AT&T.....didn't help the little guy or worker...
    Busting up banks will do what?
    It sounds like something I'd like because the bank system is a system of money for nothing. A fraud ripoff.
    But a very small number are in control of the world banks.....and they will invest in them and in the investor groups which own them no matter if there's 3 banks or 1,000 banks. It won't change their profits or power.
    Changing the system into debt free, nation minted coin might...But busting up stuff isn't changing much.
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    Default Re: Sanders: DNC vetoed union leader pick for platform committee

    What I think is that we had a good system. I refer to union people in their 70's and 80's.
    Stepping back I see a country which seemed very good with only 36% of it's people union.
    Union contracts forced companies to provide healthcare, vacations, good wages, pensions.
    That is not socialism.
    That is unions working within capitalism.
    Not all contracts were equal. Not all the same.

    With deregulation and free trade which were much signed u.derived Dems.....the companies fled.
    Free trade and bringing women into the workforce are progressive ideology. What good did that do for bargaining.g power?

    So now companies have unlimited labor everywhere. And have gained unlimited power and money it seems.
    Does it do us any good to relieve the companies and their big investors of what they themselves were forced to provide under union contract?
    It seems that we the workers will now pick up the tab with our little bit of cash.
    That seems to hurt me more than those it is aimed at.

    And leads me to believe it is they that want every free trade country and socialist and commie country picking up their tab so they keep and gain even more power.

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    Default Re: Sanders: DNC vetoed union leader pick for platform committee

    Quote Originally Posted by ABFwife View Post
    I thought I has also heard he was dutch in a book I read about him.
    He and his parents may be from Indiana or the Midwest. But their parents or the Hoffa side were from PA. Coal mines were in Schuylkill County PA and in Indiana so it's possible they migrated with that.
    If you look into names from turn of the century in Lebanon area with Hoffa as the name, it may be presumed that Hoffa is a Jewish name. You will see Old Testament names such as Levi, Abraham, Jacob, etc........but Mennonites and Amish use them names also and they are there. I think they are in Indiana or Illinois also.

 

 
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