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    This is a long read but interesting.

    Bill Fletcher, Jr. and Shaun Richman are contributing writers to In These Times, as well as veterans of the labor and socialist movements. Both have worked for several labor unions, with Fletcher having served as a senior staffer in the national AFL-CIO and Richman as a former organizing director for the American Federation of Teachers. Both came of age during different eras of left politics. In this conversation, the two writers and organizers examine what a revived socialist movement could mean for unions—and the broader push for workers’ rights and dignity.
    Shaun Richman: We’re in a political moment when tens of thousands of Americans are declaring themselves to be socialists and joining and paying dues to socialist organizations. It’s not just Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), although DSA is growing the largest and the fastest. The entire alphabet soup of the Left, basically any socialist group that isn’t a weirdo cult, is experiencing an influx of new members and activity. In the context of the “Organize or Die!” union push of the last 30 years, this is new and potentially a game-changer. There are now organized socialist groups that exist in significant numbers and are trying to figure out what their labor program should be, how they relate to a labor movement, and how they can be helpful. And it’s not obvious what they should do. Bill, what are the opportunities and pitfalls, and what does this growth mean for labor?

    Bill Fletcher: It is useful to contrast this growth with what took place in the Left during the late 1960s and early 1970s. The Left, at that point, saw a project that was necessary within the working class. And so there was a whole wave of people, myself included, that went into workplaces, if we weren’t already there, as a way of organizing to rebuild a vibrant labor movement and to lay the foundation for a working-class-based radical political movement that would, hopefully, result in the construction of a new political party of the socialist Left.
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    It means communism. it's Marxism. It always fails and ends in violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    It means communism. it's Marxism. It always fails and ends in violence.
    Capitalism is doing so well in this country.
    The greed. The obnoxious wealthy elitists. The lop-sided economy.

    There must be a middle of the road compromise.
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    Capitalism. The only form of government that has created the greatest economy in the world. It is Big Government which draws it power unlawfully from big banks and corporations that have perverted it. And now calls for another version to save you will still be controlled by such groups. I'm sure it will work out.

    Taking money by Force from one group and give to another always fails. The money drys up and all those that demand it wind up in the street with nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    Capitalism. The only form of government that has created the greatest economy in the world. It is Big Government which draws it power unlawfully from big banks and corporations that have perverted it. And now calls for another version to save you will still be controlled by such groups. I'm sure it will work out.

    Taking money by Force from one group and give to another always fails. The money drys up and all those that demand it wind up in the street with nothing.
    The wealthy already take money by force.
    Your forced to give your labor at a reduced rate every year.
    Those that wind up on the street will rise and demand fairness and equality.

    Don't blink. We are sliding backwards everyday from the greed of the elitists.
    Switzerland is viewed as the No. 1 overall country, according to a survey of more than 21,000 people from 36 countries in all regions of the world. People regard the European country highly for its citizenship, being open for business, an environment that encourages entrepreneurship, the quality of life it provides its citizens and for its cultural influence.
    The United States fell as many positions as Germany in the rankings, dropping to No. 7 overall, behind Sweden.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...tries-rankings
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    And some how you make these elites and money go away and find some angle to look over you

    best you’ll get done is tear down your freedom and rights doing away with the constitution.

    You are saying what the young millennial are saying coming from their college of indoctrination
    you are doing what the elites have setup for you
    tear it down puppet

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    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    And some how you make these elites and money go away and find some angle to look over you

    best you’ll get done is tear down your freedom and rights doing away with the constitution.

    You are saying what the young millennial are saying coming from their college of indoctrination
    you are doing what the elites have setup for you
    tear it down puppet
    Hey Strappy, do your handlers pay you by the post or is your compensation salary based?

    Sent from my SM-J327T using Tapatalk
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    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    And some how you make these elites and money go away and find some angle to look over you

    best you’ll get done is tear down your freedom and rights doing away with the constitution.

    You are saying what the young millennial are saying coming from their college of indoctrination
    you are doing what the elites have setup for you
    tear it down puppet
    Refer to my post #3.
    There must be a middle of the road compromise.


    My freedom is what I make of it, not some political hack ( or other radicalized spokesperson ) that decides what is best for me.

    As for anyone being a puppet.
    Do you ever stray from your standard repertoire of hate and fear ?
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    Default Re: What the Revival of Socialism in America Means for the Labor Movement

    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    It means communism. it's Marxism. It always fails and ends in violence.
    Doesn't America lead the world in Violence more people in prison than any other nation, always at WAR...........

    If Capitalism truly worked than there would be no need for Socialism or Unions for that matter......


    Quote form you....

    "Taking money by Force from one group and give to another always fails. The money drys up and all those that demand it wind up in the street with nothing."


    Isn't that what we are doing by joining a Union, forcing the Company to give us more money and benefits?

    Thing is you haven't figure it out yet, and it's been brought up on this site that it's

    "Socialism for the Rich, Capitalism for you and I"...... Corporate welfare is 2 to 1 over social welfare go figure.....


    And I have stated before the US (capitalism) makes sure Socialism doesn't work anywhere in the world if possible (Read "Killing Hope" by William Blum or "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins) and am sure the CIA has it's fingerprints all over what going on in Venezuela it's what they do...the 1% and bankers (The West) want control of that oil!!
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