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    This City Hall, brought to you by Amazon

    Last month Amazon announced it got 238 offers for its new, proposed 50,000-employee HQ2. I set out to see what’s in them, but only about 30 have been released so far under public-record acts.
    Example: Chicago has offered to let Amazon pocket $1.32 billion in income taxes paid by its own workers. This is truly perverse. Called a personal income-tax diversion, the workers must still pay the full taxes, but instead of the state getting the money to use for schools, roads or whatever, Amazon would get to keep it all instead.
    Seriously, we’ve got Congress slashing corporate taxes, business cash overwhelming elections and the Federal Communications Commission poised to turn control of the internet over to a few private companies. Now a single company is viewed as such a shiny prize that some seem ready to wave the white flag on the whole “for the people, by the people” experiment.


    It feels like a dicey moment for the “civic black hole.“ Also known as democracy.

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    So what would be the alternative to free capitalism and democracy ?

    I have said before, the tax breaks, give-aways and other corporate perks need to stop.
    However, it seems to fall on deaf ears with chants of more jobs, higher wages and trickle down economics.

    Sure.
    The factory jobs won't come back.
    Retail jobs may soon disappear with the new cyber retailers taking over.
    All the while some are worried about which party is in power.
    What exactly has either party done for the working ( and tax paying ) middle class lately ?

    Zilch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    So what would be the alternative to free capitalism and democracy ?

    I have said before, the tax breaks, give-aways and other corporate perks need to stop.
    However, it seems to fall on deaf ears with chants of more jobs, higher wages and trickle down economics.

    Sure.
    The factory jobs won't come back.
    Retail jobs may soon disappear with the new cyber retailers taking over.
    All the while some are worried about which party is in power.
    What exactly has either party done for the working ( and tax paying ) middle class lately ?

    Zilch.
    On a side note, we shop locally as much as possible. For every $100 we spend at our mom and pop business, $55 stays in our community. I'm glad to say we helped the cause yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    So what would be the alternative to free capitalism and democracy ?

    I have said before, the tax breaks, give-aways and other corporate perks need to stop.
    However, it seems to fall on deaf ears with chants of more jobs, higher wages and trickle down economics.

    Sure.
    The factory jobs won't come back.
    Retail jobs may soon disappear with the new cyber retailers taking over.
    All the while some are worried about which party is in power.
    What exactly has either party done for the working ( and tax paying ) middle class lately ?

    Zilch.
    So what would be the alternative to free capitalism and democracy ?
    There is none and we are a Republic not a Democracy.

    The factory jobs won't come back.
    They won't come back if we have a high Tax base compared to other Countries.

    Retail jobs may soon disappear with the new cyber retailers taking over.
    Seems that's going to happen as long as we let just a few very large Monopoly's take over.
    Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Facebook have grown and are now deep in bed with the Government. Controlling Communication and even the Military.
    Amazon Web Services Announces Secret Cloud Region For CIA

    All the while some are worried about which party is in power.
    Both are the same. You lost control even before we were born.

    What exactly has either party done for the working ( and tax paying ) middle class lately ?
    Nothing but offer Lip Service of BS creating chaos and division amongst the people.

    New laws
    No tax or incentives of any kind in all states.

    All meeting with Politicians should be in the light of day.
    All phone calls and any type of communication should be public common knowledge.
    All of K Street of Lobbyist should be conducted in the open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    So what would be the alternative to free capitalism and democracy ?
    There is none and we are a Republic not a Democracy.

    The factory jobs won't come back.
    They won't come back if we have a high Tax base compared to other Countries.
    They'll come back if we tariff them equal to what they get by leaving.
    No businessman should be entitled to make out at the expense of our people and our jobs and living standards.
    Time to put America...and not the worlds rich elites....FIRST.
    All countries tariff when building......and at $20 trillion in debt, mostly because of giving our jobs away due to economic theories which were created by and for the rich, we have just a tad bit of building to do....or rebuilding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    On a side note, we shop locally as much as possible. For every $100 we spend at our mom and pop business, $55 stays in our community. I'm glad to say we helped the cause yesterday.

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    Glad to see you shop local. But that $55 that stays in the community?? I think it would have to be what kind of business that your talking about. Wife had the store for over twenty years and the best markup she had was a keystone. That is if you pay a dollar you sell it for two.. On average her markup was about forty percent. Then you had the freight and now your down to thirty five percent. Then you have rent and if your landloard is local then that money would stay local but in this area a lot of the stores are owned by our of state real estate companies.. Mom and Pop stores are about done today.. Sadly the box stores and the internet have taken over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    Glad to see you shop local. But that $55 that stays in the community?? I think it would have to be what kind of business that your talking about. Wife had the store for over twenty years and the best markup she had was a keystone. That is if you pay a dollar you sell it for two.. On average her markup was about forty percent. Then you had the freight and now your down to thirty five percent. Then you have rent and if your landloard is local then that money would stay local but in this area a lot of the stores are owned by our of state real estate companies.. Mom and Pop stores are about done today.. Sadly the box stores and the internet have taken over.
    Thank you for buying locally! Here’s what happens when you do:

    The top ten reasons to buy locally.

    https://localfirst.org/think-local

    It’s Time to Shop Local

    "This year’s Small Business Saturday is November 25. In partnership with the Salt Lake City Department of Economic Development, the Salt Lake Chamber invites you to shop small this holiday season and support our local businesses.

    According to findings from Local First Utah, spending just 10% more at local businesses would keep approximately $1.3 billion in the Utah economy every year. Those retailers then return more than half of their revenue to the local economy, versus just 13.6% from national chain retailers."



    http://slchamber.com/small-business-saturday/

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    Default Re: This City Hall, brought to you by Amazon

    I do use Amazon for some items. But I do a lot of local shopping and that is saying a lot considering how small my town is. ABQ is one of the cities trying to get Amazon to locate here. I do understand why. We desperately need jobs here. I don't expect it to happen at all.

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    Amazon is like a.cancer to the retail industry..

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    Default Re: This City Hall, brought to you by Amazon

    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    Amazon is like a.cancer to the retail industry..
    Kind of like Walmart.......

 

 

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