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    Default The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

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    The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About the politics of race.
    By Mike Gonzalez
    America's surging politics of victimhood and identitarian division did not emerge organically or inevitably, as many believe. Nor are these practices the result of irrepressible demands by minorities for recognition, or for redress of past wrongs, as we are constantly told. Those explanations are myths, spread by the activists, intellectuals, and philanthropists who set out deliberately, beginning at mid-century, to redefine our country. Their goal was mass mobilization for political ends, and one of their earliest targets was the Mexican-American community. These activists strived purposefully to turn Americans of this community (who mostly resided in the Southwestern states) against their countrymen, teaching them first to see themselves as a racial minority and then to think of themselves as the core of a pan-ethnic victim group of “Hispanics”—a fabricated term with no basis in ethnicity, culture, or race.

    This transformation took effort—because many Mexican Americans had traditionally seen themselves as white. When the 1930 Census classified “Mexican American” as a race, leaders of the community protested vehemently and had the classification changed back to white in the very next census. The most prominent Mexican-American organization at the time—the patriotic, pro-assimilationist League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC)—complained that declassifying Mexicans as white had been an attempt to “discriminate between the Mexicans themselves and other members of the white race, when in truth and fact we are not only a part and parcel but as well the sum and substance of the white race.” Tracing their ancestry in part to the Spanish who conquered South and Central America, they regarded themselves as offshoots of white Europeans.

    Such views may surprise readers today, but this was the way many Mexican Americans saw their race until mid-century.
    A different take than what I'm used to reading.
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    Default Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/t...-of-hispanics/
    The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About the politics of race.
    By Mike Gonzalez


    A different take than what I'm used to reading.
    Very interesting. Wondering how true it is. My husbands grandfather who was Native American was also listed as white on all his military papers. He was born here in New Mexico with a Spanish last name. Very typical of many Native Americans in New Mexico. But the rest of my husband's family originally came from Mexico a couple of generations back and his father has always identified as a Chicano. We are all one race, just of different ethnic backgrounds..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABFwife View Post
    We are all one race, just of different ethnic backgrounds..
    You have said it eloquently. We are all the human race.

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    Default Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

    Hmmm...well I guess I am the Other white Meat, Spaniard by my Father’s side, and a mixture of Mexican blood from my Mom, that her Family is Original Californian when Califas was Mexico back then.
    So my breed would be consider a “Mestizo”

    noun
    (in Latin America) a man of mixed race, especially one having Spanish and indigenous descent.

    Okay I could live with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedexnuno View Post
    Hmmm...well I guess I am the Other white Meat, Spaniard by my Father’s side, and a mixture of Mexican blood from my Mom, that her Family is Original Californian when Califas was Mexico back then.
    So my breed would be consider a “Mestizo”

    noun
    (in Latin America) a man of mixed race, especially one having Spanish and indigenous descent.

    Okay I could live with this
    Frankly, we are all mixed race. But I still prefer human race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    Frankly, we are all mixed race. But I still prefer human race.
    You’re absolutely right Brother...even better, we are all God Children’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    You have said it eloquently. We are all the human race.
    The story says the divisions come from the socialists....probably true.
    When Nuno first came on here his description of himself was Spanish from Spain I believe....and the story says how the Hispanics do not like being all lumped into one group....I have found truth in that...the Dominicans and Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and Nicaraguans are not all happy about being lumped together totally. They all have different pride in their own people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    The story says the divisions come from the socialists....probably true.
    When Nuno first came on here his description of himself was Spanish from Spain I believe....and the story says how the Hispanics do not like being all lumped into one group....I have found truth in that...the Dominicans and Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and Nicaraguans are not all happy about being lumped together totally. They all have different pride in their own people.
    "The divisions came from the socialists, probably true" ... your words. Where are the divisions coming from in this country NOW ?
    I don't know the real answer to what you said. Any chance it's true ? Don't know. I think the socialists did have a division, the working class and the ruling class.

    I believe it is great to have pride in your ethnic origins. We all celebrate something from that.
    Still in the end, we just just human beings, created as God's children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    "The divisions came from the socialists, probably true" ... your words. Where are the divisions coming from in this country NOW ?
    I don't know the real answer to what you said. Any chance it's true ? Don't know. I think the socialists did have a division, the working class and the ruling class.

    I believe it is great to have pride in your ethnic origins. We all celebrate something from that.
    Still in the end, we just just human beings, created as God's children.
    When you want to divide by race and gender and class..its usually the Dems.
    When you want to divide by religion or nationality or no religion...it's usually the GOP.
    It is not equal power that any political groups desire...it is really MORE THAN EQUAL rights that they want.
    The evil doesn't just work one side of the fence...it wants both. And it is in both.

    My point with this story is that the Mexican Americans had to actually sue multiple times to keep them as " white"..but the left kept " forcing" them into the box that would help them politically....they did not want to be seen as different.....they wanted to be equal.....but we're forced into an undignified box for Democrat power purposes...I box which said they needed extra help....that they were mistreated...that they needed the Dems to fight a battle for them which did not exist...they created it....and now generations later the Dems have a voting block....but these people lost their dignity because they got hooked on the political dope forced on them...not drugs but propaganda.
    They say they need equal rights after they took them...and now they want to help them get " MORE than equal" rights.....and the people who don't get them more than equal rights....begin to resent them.....the hate is created by Democratic politicians in this case.

    Trump just signed an executive order for the Jews.
    It will not get them equal rights but more than equal rights lawsuits against universities were filed the first day....free victimhood money......they don't want Palestinians to have a say with protests on campuses....and if it happens universities get sued....one wrong word which does not cater to the victim...loses money from places and the so called victim gets money.......since when can politics not be protested at universities? Israel/Palestine is a legitimate protest imo....no more....because the hate card is now played...played to silence and favor one over another...not to protect...protection is needed from violence not speech.....sticks and stones can break my bones..but words can never hurt me.......a kid saying...
    No more....adults and lawyers and politicians have opportunity to cash in and hurt due to words.

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    I would think that the last thing I posted above about the Jews and colleges and universities is very dangerous.. The higher educations may only be able to teach Jew. favoring teachings...anything against what they feel is correct teaching could be sued....silenced.
    The higher educated graduates then become teachers of the lower grades of schools or experts on subjects after graduating........and only one side can be taught?

    I've read very different stories on the Inquisitions and the Reformation that we were all taught in school.......the recent stuff looks more accurate....almost as if there has been a Catholic bias in our public schools...
    Can Catholics go protest for these same types of reasons?

    Why not just drop all the labels....because it looks like it's really not all victims but..people who want more power than the rest. Dangerous power in some cases.
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