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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    Watch 28 seconds...and turn it off.....What do American don't get? It's always Socialism for the rich...were's the money coming form now....

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...t-coronavirus/

    "“There has to be a better way than draining the company of its money in good times, but asking the taxpayer for money in hard times.”

    If we bailout these Corporations, than the Company belongs to the American People and it's profits should be use to save Social Security and the failing pension crisis in this Country...


    Once again in times of "Crisis" where does or what does the Country turn to......."Socialism"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayheykid View Post
    Watch 28 seconds...and turn it off.....What do American don't get? It's always Socialism for the rich...were's the money coming form now....

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...t-coronavirus/

    "“There has to be a better way than draining the company of its money in good times, but asking the taxpayer for money in hard times.”

    If we bailout these Corporations, than the Company belongs to the American People and it's profits should be use to save Social Security and the failing pension crisis in this Country...


    Once again in times of "Crisis" where does or what does the Country turn to......."Socialism"?
    I dont understand why you turned it off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    "money is NOT the issue" "It's profit" them two statements dont even make sense being said together. They spend money to make profit.
    I shall clarify. We suddenly have have trillions of dollars available to potentially finance big corporate America as the economy tanks, and maybe even a few dollars to throw at the masses. That's the money. Doesn't seem to matter now.
    As for profit, that of course is what big business does. Make profits. Do you really want any business that cares for us, our family, our parents to decide what treatments, what medicine that can receive while looking at how much profits they may lose ? Have you looked at the massive benefit and salary packages of the big pharmaceutical companies ? It's in the billions, yet our healthcare system ranks 17th in the world. For what we pay and what those executives get paid, we should be number one. We're not.
    Some could believe that making someone give up profits is thievery also. Medial care shouldn't be a right, its a service. Like Ben Shapiro said in the vid I posted a few post ago. Did you watch it all? You don't agree with him? Take the government out of healthcare would result in more providers and dramatic cost reductions.
    I disagree. Healthcare should be a basic human right.

    Get the government our of our lives. Go listen to what he said about the eye surgery. What it cost then and now.
    I have had eye surgery. At the Wills Eye hospital in Philadelphia. One of the premiere eye hospitals in the world. I know about eye surgery. My wife also has dealt with Will Eye after a drug she took caused retinal detachment. Your not telling me anything i didn't already know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy View Post
    Better system? Yeah get the government out of the medical field and let the the private sector run it.
    The private sector does run healthcare. Have you bought medicare ?
    No, I know you haven't.
    It is big corporate America's healthcare, not the government.
    My medicare policy is Mutual of Omaha and another for drugs. The government only supplies Part A, hospitalization.

    Remove profit from my healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    My medicare policy is Mutual of Omaha and another for drugs. The government only supplies Part A, hospitalization.

    Remove profit from my healthcare.
    You sure about this?? My medicare pays for doctor visits {part B} as well.. So does my wife's.. They pay 80% and the rest is on you.. We have our supplemental policies through the union.. Maybe you ought to look at different policies for your supplement..

    https://www.medicare.gov/your-medica...art-b-premiums

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    You sure about this?? My medicare pays for doctor visits {part B} as well.. So does my wife's.. They pay 80% and the rest is on you.. We have our supplemental policies through the union.. Maybe you ought to look at different policies for your supplement..

    https://www.medicare.gov/your-medica...art-b-premiums
    My supplement is Mutual of Omaha. My policy covers everything, including the 20% co-pay.
    I haven't paid a thing since I signed up. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
    Maybe you should look at different policies.

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    May think that government run healthcare is what we need.. Here is a link to Wikipedia on Italy's healthcare.. supposedly the 2nd best in the world behind France.. How is that working out for them as they seem to have the highest fatality rate on Covid19

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    May think that government run healthcare is what we need.. Here is a link to Wikipedia on Italy's healthcare.. supposedly the 2nd best in the world behind France.. How is that working out for them as they seem to have the highest fatality rate on Covid19

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Italy
    You will see the same thing happen here if they don't hurry up and get a grip on the situation. Why do you think they are locking everything down? They know the health system will quickly be overcome by this pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABFwife View Post
    You will see the same thing happen here if they don't hurry up and get a grip on the situation. Why do you think they are locking everything down? They know the health system will quickly be overcome by this pandemic.
    I agree with you.. I don't think anyone in the world knew how this is playing out.. Take New York City.. seems they have the most cases in the country as NY state has the most for a state.. NYC over the last thirty or so years closed many many hospitals .. And now they are crying they need the beds?? Maybe they should look back to see what politicians allowed this to happen.. And what happened to those hospitals.. Apartment and condo's.. that's where the money is..



    https://citylimits.org/2017/01/04/ho...n-nycs-health/
    Last edited by crazy; 03-22-2020 at 09:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    May think that government run healthcare is what we need.. Here is a link to Wikipedia on Italy's healthcare.. supposedly the 2nd best in the world behind France.. How is that working out for them as they seem to have the highest fatality rate on Covid19

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Italy
    Healthcare spending in Italy accounted for 9.2% of GDP,of which about 77% is public,slightly lower than the average of 9.3% in OCED countries...Italy's healthcare system is regarded,by the World Health Organization's ranking,as the second best in the world after France,and according to the WHO,Italy has the world's 6th highest life expectancy,which at birth in Italy was 82.3 years,which is over two years above the OCED average...But currently it is being overwhelmed by a pandemic...

    Meanwhile conservatives have been against universal healthcare in the US...We can't even get testing kits here,and hospitals don't have the necessary funding because it would cut into their profits...''NOW'' they want Socialism...''NOW'' they want Government to bail them out...

    Even from the POV of capitalist's,this is a disaster,because it's costing them money in the stock market,and now they might even have to wipe their own :(:(:( with their fingers...

    Italy handled the initial infection poorly,they did not restrict people entering from infected communities and did not track,test,and quarantine enough,''Just like the U.S.''...Their high mortality rate can be traced to their high median age,almost ''10 years'' higher than the US's''...The median age of those who've died from COVID-19 in Italy is 81 and they've had a massive overwhelming of their healthcare system,which is very good and better than average in normal times...When they asked for help from their EU partners,they were met by silence,as Germany and other countries were worried about their own supplies and upcoming epidemic...What's interesting is that China has stepped in to help Italy and Spain with 10,000 ventilators,20,000 hazmat suits and a million masks,and if needed,experience and expertise

    https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/f...y-wide-problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizard View Post
    Healthcare spending in Italy accounted for 9.2% of GDP,of which about 77% is public,slightly lower than the average of 9.3% in OCED countries...Italy's healthcare system is regarded,by the World Health Organization's ranking,as the second best in the world after France,and according to the WHO,Italy has the world's 6th highest life expectancy,which at birth in Italy was 82.3 years,which is over two years above the OCED average...But currently it is being overwhelmed by a pandemic...

    Meanwhile conservatives have been against universal healthcare in the US...We can't even get testing kits here,and hospitals don't have the necessary funding because it would cut into their profits...''NOW'' they want Socialism...''NOW'' they want Government to bail them out...

    Even from the POV of capitalist's,this is a disaster,because it's costing them money in the stock market,and now they might even have to wipe their own :(:(:( with their fingers...

    Italy handled the initial infection poorly,they did not restrict people entering from infected communities and did not track,test,and quarantine enough,''Just like the U.S.''...Their high mortality rate can be traced to their high median age,almost ''10 years'' higher than the US's''...The median age of those who've died from COVID-19 in Italy is 81 and they've had a massive overwhelming of their healthcare system,which is very good and better than average in normal times...When they asked for help from their EU partners,they were met by silence,as Germany and other countries were worried about their own supplies and upcoming epidemic...What's interesting is that China has stepped in to help Italy and Spain with 10,000 ventilators,20,000 hazmat suits and a million masks,and if needed,experience and expertise

    https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/f...y-wide-problem
    Italy has suppose to be the second best healthcare in the world.. How is that working out for the older population in Italy?? If they had the 2nd best in the world then why weren't they prepared?? How come they didn't have enough test kits in the beginning?? Questions Questions and more questions.. Everyone wants to be a back seat quarterback.. Test Kits?? Maybe because you just can't find them in the 7/11.. The virus is like four months .. Do you really think that they had test kits for this in January?? They had to be manufactured.. Even Italy sent us some.. They got theirs from China.. Europe is a mess.. Where do you think this country would be if Trump didn't close travel from Europe and China?? Maybe more like Italy?? so many questions.. And it seems everyone has time on their hands..

 

 
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