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    Medicare for all or socialized medicine or single payer.. Call it what you want.. This post is about medicare that many think is the answer to everything.. A good friend of ours had been checking on her father who was 95 years old and still living home with his second wife who is 88.. After a small time in the hospital our friend was told that her father had to be put in a nursing home because he was unable to walk.. he didn't want to go .. Being on medicare his hospital time was up and they forced him into some medicare paid nursing home.. She stayed with him for five days and nights,she tried to get some sleep in a chair,and finally told her father she had to go home to get cleaned up and needed fresh clothes.. She lived about an hour and a half away.. She went home and fell asleep.. She went back to the nursing home and found her father dead.. From the time she left no one at the nursing home checked on him..eleven hours she was gone. She was very close to him and is devastated .. My brother was in a similar situation in Florida after having a stroke.. My niece went down to Florida and brought him back to New York.. He lived for another 6 years.. The nursing home in Florida told her he only had a few weeks..
    This is the system that the left wants to give everyone. Well if you want to sell this shit they might want to fix it first..
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    Medicare for all or socialized medicine or single payer.. Call it what you want.. This post is about medicare that many think is the answer to everything.. A good friend of ours had been checking on her father who was 95 years old and still living home with his second wife who is 88.. After a small time in the hospital our friend was told that her father had to be put in a nursing home because he was unable to walk.. he didn't want to go .. Being on medicare his hospital time was up and they forced him into some medicare paid nursing home.. She stayed with him for five days and nights,she tried to get some sleep in a chair,and finally told her father she had to go home to get cleaned up and needed fresh clothes.. She lived about an hour and a half away.. She went home and fell asleep.. She went back to the nursing home and found her father dead.. From the time she left no one at the nursing home checked on him..eleven hours she was gone. She was very close to him and is devastated .. My brother was in a similar situation in Florida after having a stroke.. My niece went down to Florida and brought him back to New York.. He lived for another 6 years.. The nursing home in Florida told her he only had a few weeks..
    This is the system that the left wants to give everyone. Well if you want to sell this shit they might want to fix it first..
    I have a question. He was "forced" into a nursing home?

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    The discussion has placed out there. We need to change our current system of healthcare for profit.
    Unless you can point out to me that profit driven corporations have your ( my ) best interest while determining which test, which drug or which medical procedure you need, without looking at costs, then I don't want to hear your argument.
    Clearly with what is happening today, money is NOT the issue. It's profit. The big pharmaceutical companies, healthcare providers and medical establishment buy the politicians and their allegiance to corporate thievery.

    Remove profit from my healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    I have a question. He was "forced" into a nursing home?

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    Yes because he was unable to walk and he had other issues and his elderly wife couldn't care for him. He needed care that couldn't be given at home is what was used for a reason. I don't know how other government regulated nursing homes are but I have read horror stories about some hear in the northeast. A few years back we found a elderly guy walking on the back roads near where we live. It was cold and damp out. I picked him up and drove him to the local nursing home where he according to the workers there said escaped. He was very cold as the workers came out to get him. I have him my jacket. They never said a word to me and just ushered him to where ever in the home. Never got my jacket back but hopefully he got to keep it. Some of these places need to be shut down but as soon as one closes another sleazy one opens. There is money to be made dealing with Medicare,another case of accepting low payments for shitty care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    The discussion has placed out there. We need to change our current system of healthcare for profit.
    Unless you can point out to me that profit driven corporations have your ( my ) best interest while determining which test, which drug or which medical procedure you need, without looking at costs, then I don't want to hear your argument.
    Clearly with what is happening today, money is NOT the issue. It's profit. The big pharmaceutical companies, healthcare providers and medical establishment buy the politicians and their allegiance to corporate thievery.

    Remove profit from my healthcare.
    I won't argue that the system is broken. Maybe if someone can come up with a system that is better than we all can take a look at it. I posted the above thread to show that Medicare for all is not what it is cracked up to be. Be careful of what you wish for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    I won't argue that the system is broken. Maybe if someone can come up with a system that is better than we all can take a look at it. I posted the above thread to show that Medicare for all is not what it is cracked up to be. Be careful of what you wish for.
    Have you considered your above story is more about the nursing homes ( the corporate owners ) desire to increase profits by reducing staff, lower paid personnel, or just cutting corners to save a buck ? It is all about profits.

    Remove profit from my healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    The discussion has placed out there. We need to change our current system of healthcare for profit.
    Unless you can point out to me that profit driven corporations have your ( my ) best interest while determining which test, which drug or which medical procedure you need, without looking at costs, then I don't want to hear your argument.
    Clearly with what is happening today, money is NOT the issue. It's profit. The big pharmaceutical companies, healthcare providers and medical establishment buy the politicians and their allegiance to corporate thievery.

    Remove profit from my healthcare.
    "money is NOT the issue" "It's profit" them two statements dont even make sense being said together. They spend money to make profit.

    Some could believe that making someone give up profits is thievery also. Medial care shouldn't be a right, its a service. Like Ben Shapiro said in the vid I posted a few post ago. Did you watch it all? You don't agree with him? Take the government out of healthcare would result in more providers and dramatic cost reductions.

    Get the government our of our lives. Go listen to what he said about the eye surgery. What it cost then and now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    I won't argue that the system is broken. Maybe if someone can come up with a system that is better than we all can take a look at it. I posted the above thread to show that Medicare for all is not what it is cracked up to be. Be careful of what you wish for.
    Better system? Yeah get the government out of the medical field and let the the private sector run it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    Have you considered your above story is more about the nursing homes ( the corporate owners ) desire to increase profits by reducing staff, lower paid personnel, or just cutting corners to save a buck ? It is all about profits.

    Remove profit from my healthcare.
    This part of it is about nursing homes . This is only one part of medicare. I am on Medicare and it is no where near the medical I had through the union.I get some kind of shots for my knees,takes three weeks to get a approval. The only thing though it does seem almost every one does accept it. Think it is more because there are so many on Medicare..

    Be careful of what you wish for.

 

 
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