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Old 10-11-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Default The latest Reddaway info

Even with the small amount of Reddaway workers that come here, maybe those that see this can pass it on or paste this link in an e-mail.
I'm really exhausted with all the hearsay and rumors as to what point we're at in our employments status/negotiations, so here is a SHORT synopsis of the TRUE FACTS.........................

There seems to be 2 major sticking points..........

Health Benefits ---------

As most of you who have been around a while you know that at one point in time we lost full Maintenance Of Benefits. and regained it in the next contract; the one we're currently extended under. Full MOB was by far, the most important issue expressed coming into this negotiations nightmare.
To our Full MOB proposal, they have countered with .40 cents worth of coverage in 2010, 2011, and 2012.
Here is the simple version.....
At this point in time, health care is projected to rise by 8%.
This is roughly $87 a month.
.40 would cover roughly $70 a month.
Your cost would be about $17 a month the first year.
Remember 8% of the next two years would be a little bigger each time, thus your cost would rise also.

Wages -----------
Here's the biggest kick in the balls to the hardest working employees of the company.
They agreed to our $1.35 an hour raise on ratification for heavy duty pay.
However they want to give the dock .25 measly cents.
Hardly, in my opinion, equal sacrifice.

This is where the numbers game comes in...........
There are roughly 600 members under this contract; 200 are dockworkers and 400 drivers. So if 400 drivers are only out for themselves (a distinct possibility in this economy) then they will outvote the dockworkers and they will get stuck with a quarter. They are banking on your possible selfishness.
Currently,the union is back working on raising that quarter as much as possible.

This is where a little solidarity would be helpful; powerful, yet dangerous exercise given the other options they would like to exercise.
It's in our hands to squeak out what we can get in these hard times, or possibly become the next Reimer - Edmonton. For that story, click here...YRC Reimer Closes Edmonton Terminal | Journal of Commerce


If you think that they would dare shut down our "moneymaking machine," trust me, it is this first and foremost option in their minds.
"But what about my family and my home?"
Folks, not only is that not a concern to them, it's not even on their minds.


One last item; for those of you who like to walk around the terminal spouting off the unknowledgeable statement that your union (the IBT) is just selling is down the road, I submit that you have no understanding of the process or the painstaking hours and endless discussion that go into this mind numbing exercise (not to mention assnumbing from sitting on a hard flat chair.)
Selling you out, my fellow Teamster, would be to take the first offer that came down to the pike, recommend it, and submit it for a vote.
Then, and only then would you understand how much the company thinks of your value in this process of making their golden parachute just a little fluffier.
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WoW, pulling three. This sounds like
for the same comom goal.
This is exciting a whole new way with the whole Team working in one direction to provide the best service together, not just the biggest, BUT the best service for are customers. I am very poud to be a TEAMSTER to day.
Mr Competitor better watch out cause as a team working together (Mannagment and Labor) to please our costomers we will REALLY KICK BUTT.
I am happy to give a little extra and see this newday come about from one proud Teamster menber employed by the Yellow machine. Imagine what can be done if we keep it on track in this direction and the new concept of working as a team together.
Well hope I am not blowing my horn to soon.
I just get excited about the possiblity of such good news and and can see a big upswing in things to come for all. Thank You to all the people who made this happen.
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Must have done something wrong here.
1/2 my post did not get posted.
Guess I hit the wrong button.
Oh, well, the general idea is we are starting to all work together in the same direction and we will make this Yellow machine fly by the sound of things as long as everyone gets a fair shake.
Please keep us all imformed of any new updates.
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just curious from npme driver on your contract deal.what is your curent wage? what is the 1.35 @hr.for?signing contract or total increases for lenght of contract? what do you mean with heavy duty pay? they are only putting in .20 cents for us over here for health bennies, in the first month after, scripts doubled, dental when to 80% coverage, and insurance coveage dropped drastictly.whats the deal with you guys takeing 15% cut,is that after you get raises and contract is signed?and just to backup what you say about being shut down.there were and i guess still a few that think yrcw wouldn;t have shut down npme,because we make money. i personally beleive these arragant ******** that can't run yrc and turn a profit and pretty much haven't done much but take from us workers and still bleed millions a day, would have shut npme down or merged us just for spite.they are only in this to save yrc, and could care less about npme or reddaway. good luck to you left coasters on your vote, i know what your going threw and it just plain old sucks.
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We are still at $21/hr. The international is involved in our negoatiations, and we thought we had a deal everyone could live with. (IBT, YRC and us.) The 15% would leave us at an unliveable wage, and it was determined $19/hr was the minimum needed. So the $1.35 was a negotiated raise, along with annual raises. The idea being, is that after we ratify such a contract, it would be null and void unless and until we ratified the 15% cut, after our non-union terminals were under a 15% cut for 3 weeks. That would bring us down to $19/hr. The union was ready to vote on this a couple weeks ago, while Reddaways president delayed things by not signing it. (He has cost the company a million or 2 by this delay....) Then our president comes out with a counter proposal that he wants voted, which puts our dock workers at over $2/hr less than everyone else. (Right now they are about .39 below the drivers I think.) As it stands it will not pass, and he was advised of that fact. Now we understand the company does not want it voted on. What the hell....it is as if they do not want a contract. While we have effectively been on a wage freeze for a year and a half, the non-union locations have been receiving PAY RAISES, the last one last January.
Heavy duty pay= doubles, triples, city P&D except for the small straight trucks, which are classified as Solo pay. (I think we only have 4 'solo' trucks in Portland, don't know about Seattle.)
I'm wondering if YRC is getting impatient with our president, who is now costing them a lot of money. They could have had this thing done by now...
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We are still at $21/hr. The international is involved in our negoatiations, and we thought we had a deal everyone could live with. (IBT, YRC and us.) The 15% would leave us at an unliveable wage, and it was determined $19/hr was the minimum needed. So the $1.35 was a negotiated raise, along with annual raises. The idea being, is that after we ratify such a contract, it would be null and void unless and until we ratified the 15% cut, after our non-union terminals were under a 15% cut for 3 weeks. That would bring us down to $19/hr. The union was ready to vote on this a couple weeks ago, while Reddaways president delayed things by not signing it. (He has cost the company a million or 2 by this delay....) Then our president comes out with a counter proposal that he wants voted, which puts our dock workers at over $2/hr less than everyone else. (Right now they are about .39 below the drivers I think.) As it stands it will not pass, and he was advised of that fact. Now we understand the company does not want it voted on. What the hell....it is as if they do not want a contract. While we have effectively been on a wage freeze for a year and a half, the non-union locations have been receiving PAY RAISES, the last one last January.
Heavy duty pay= doubles, triples, city P&D except for the small straight trucks, which are classified as Solo pay. (I think we only have 4 'solo' trucks in Portland, don't know about Seattle.)
I'm wondering if YRC is getting impatient with our president, who is now costing them a lot of money. They could have had this thing done by now...
You are correct my friend. I have a problem with this thread and it is that info is out that may or may nor be true. Now the we are making up our minds on issues that may or may not apply. I have heard that there are some good language changes that have been agreed to and I do want to hold out my opinion until I see it all on the table. THis thread does not represent the entire package and my opinion is that it is irresponsible to put it out without it all being out. Also it shouldn't be out until the entire deal has been agreed to by both sides. My understanding is that has not happened yet. No offense but that is my opinion.
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I sure would like them to close the boards.
U transfer fr one , U go to the bottom.
Close Line, City and dock loaders.
No way should a person who has been loading freightl for 10 years sunddenly get a CDL is qualified to be a line driver and bump me to the bottom of the board.
No way should I be able to go P&D and bump someone off a run from line and know nothing about line.
No way should anyone who has never loaded trailers from line be able to bump someone because time are getting tough and they know nothing abpout loading.

This company really does need closed boards and everyone here knows that and we are the only company I ever heard of having a crazy open board like that.
Master Freight is laughing at hoe stupid and selfish a total open board is.
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We have people collecting Social Security and working here
We have people retired from the union and they keep there seniority.
When they retire they should loss there seniority, not keep it to scew people trying to work for aliving.
We have people collecting Social Security, (1) Collecting teamsters retirement (2) and still working at the best runs with this company because they did not give up there senioirty and getting the best runs too (3)
Yes 3 TRIPLE dipping and keeping senioirty.
Double dipping and keeping there senioirty.
I wonder why Mr Jim H or the Company has not got into this and realized how muct more $$$ MONEY it is costing the UNION and the COMPANY at the same time.
Then they say well give up the pension for the up and coming for awhile.
Bull, Here me BULL they are taking from the union and from the company.
The company & the union rewards these people by letting them keep there SENIORITY.
They should loss seniority and stay at the bottom as extras if they are collecting pension.
The company and the union would say alot of money $$$$$$$$$$.
Something is fish in DENMARK HERE.
Cost cutting at my sweet vippe. Then the company wants to take my pension cause these other people got greed, CORRECT, YOURS and MINE PENSION for retirement.
Gosh Darn think about my REAL FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS. They are hurting who wish to retire someday.
If U got some msg, pls feel free to E Mail me.
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You are correct my friend. I have a problem with this thread and it is that info is out that may or may nor be true. Now the we are making up our minds on issues that may or may not apply. I have heard that there are some good language changes that have been agreed to and I do want to hold out my opinion until I see it all on the table. THis thread does not represent the entire package and my opinion is that it is irresponsible to put it out without it all being out. Also it shouldn't be out until the entire deal has been agreed to by both sides. My understanding is that has not happened yet. No offense but that is my opinion.
If the deal hasn't been agreed to, then why are locals having contract vote information meetings?
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I think that this thread is great, it came from a reliable source it was not meant to scare and every one knows that until its set in stone it is up for negotiation. I do not think that anyone working for Reddaway has any doubt about how ugly the folks running this operation can be and they will use this situation to their advantage. Maybe we will not get the best contract but to be able to keep working in tough times should be a consideration. I also think the open boards a great opportunity for all, a lot of young guys have done well for them selfs by working there way out on the street and for the most part do well on the street. Seniority is all you have.
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