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    Bill Clinton and Barack Obama helped shift power away from the people towards corporations. It was this that created an opening for Donald Trump

    What has happened in America should not be seen as a victory for hatefulness over decency. It is more accurately understood as a repudiation of the American power structure.

    At the core of that structure are the political leaders of both parties, their political operatives, and fundraisers; the major media, centered in New York and Washington DC; the country’s biggest corporations, their top executives, and Washington lobbyists and trade associations; the biggest Wall Street banks, their top officers, traders, hedge-fund and private-equity managers, and their lackeys in Washington; and the wealthy individuals who invest directly in politics.

    At the start of the 2016 election cycle, this power structure proclaimed Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush shoo-ins for the nominations of the Democratic and Republican parties. After all, both of these individuals had deep bases of funders, well-established networks of political insiders, experienced political advisers and all the political name recognition any candidate could possibly want.

    But a funny thing happened on the way to the White House. The presidency was won by Donald Trump, who made his fortune marketing office towers and casinos, and, more recently, starring in a popular reality-television program, and who has never held elective office or had anything to do with the Republican party. Hillary Clinton narrowly won the popular vote, but not enough of the states and their electors secure a victory. Read more....

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ns-us-election
    Last edited by 222lifer; 10-12-2019, 11:26 AM. Reason: Cropped, wrapped, Corrected link from the source

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    Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

    Sounds like both parties follow the Green, but in reality they shouldn’t, they uphold to be public servants to All in General, not just to the Dirty Filthy 1% Rich !
    And 1% that owns the Corporations, has close down our manufacturing business in America, how ungracious do they think that our society is going to buy their products when America is being unemployed in our country?
    All I know is all the corporations are going to have overfilled Warehouses throughout the world because no one gonna be able to purchase!
    They rather have everything rot to Hell than to keep America moving!

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      Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

      Great article...Trump ran against the status quo,against a candidate who epitomized the status quo...Working class Americans wanted change so badly that they were willing to jump out of the frying pan into the fire...And I see nothing to suggest they want to jump back into the frying pan...If the Democratic Party doesn't run a true Progressive candidate who is seen as an ADVOCATE for change,then Trump will win another term...

      If the U.S. becomes a total Oligarchy for the 1%...how much longer can it last?...The rich KNOW the inevitable collapse is coming,which is why they're buying Estates and building Bunkers and Gated Communities in New Zealand and throughout Scandinavia...''Protected Enclaves''...as it were...We shall see!!!!

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        Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

        Originally posted by wizard View Post
        Great article...Trump ran against the status quo,against a candidate who epitomized the status quo...Working class Americans wanted change so badly that they were willing to jump out of the frying pan into the fire...And I see nothing to suggest they want to jump back into the frying pan...If the Democratic Party doesn't run a true Progressive candidate who is seen as an ADVOCATE for change,then Trump will win another term...

        If the U.S. becomes a total Oligarchy for the 1%...how much longer can it last?...The rich KNOW the inevitable collapse is coming,which is why they're buying Estates and building Bunkers and Gated Communities in New Zealand and throughout Scandinavia...''Protected Enclaves''...as it were...We shall see!!!!
        Hate to tell you but it's always been about the 1% don't kid yourself.......your history book in school is one big propaganda book written for and by the 1%...IMO.

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          Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

          Originally posted by wizard View Post
          Great article...Trump ran against the status quo,against a candidate who epitomized the status quo...Working class Americans wanted change so badly that they were willing to jump out of the frying pan into the fire...And I see nothing to suggest they want to jump back into the frying pan...If the Democratic Party doesn't run a true Progressive candidate who is seen as an ADVOCATE for change,then Trump will win another term...

          If the U.S. becomes a total Oligarchy for the 1%...how much longer can it last?...The rich KNOW the inevitable collapse is coming,which is why they're buying Estates and building Bunkers and Gated Communities in New Zealand and throughout Scandinavia...''Protected Enclaves''...as it were...We shall see!!!!
          If you know a collapse is coming....How can we afford more social programs? Medicare for all? Which will do what? Take away my good Teamster health Insurance AND cost me more out of pocket....and more in taxes?
          $1000/month for people who don't work?

          AND take away the people's only defense which is guns?

          The goal seems to be to make us all work for nothing(not for leisure stuff or desires)...like communism.
          Last edited by slavenomore; 10-26-2019, 11:10 AM.

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            Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

            Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
            If you know a collapse is coming....How can we afford more social programs? Medicare for all? Which will do what? Take away my good Teamster health Insurance AND cost me more out of pocket....and more in taxes?
            $1000/month for people who don't work?

            AND take away the people's only defense which is guns?

            The goal seems to be to make us all work for nothing(not for leisure stuff or desires)...like communism.
            How can we afford more unless wars ? Unlimited military budgets ? Corporate subsidies ? Tax giveaways to the 1% ?

            How do you know if Medicare for all will cost you more ? Who told you that ? Where did you get that magical number of $1000 a month ?

            Oh ... and now we're back to taking away guns ! Are you kidding me. Do you actually fall for that right wing propaganda ?

            Finally, the dreaded "communism" word sneaks in. Socialist ? Like the Trump farmers bail out ?
            Why is it when the right wing republicans give your money to others, you didn't complain and call it socialism.

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              Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

              Originally posted by fxstc07 View Post
              How can we afford more unless wars ? Unlimited military budgets ? Corporate subsidies ? Tax giveaways to the 1% ?

              How do you know if Medicare for all will cost you more ? Who told you that ? Where did you get that magical number of $1000 a month ?

              Oh ... and now we're back to taking away guns ! Are you kidding me. Do you actually fall for that right wing propaganda ?

              Finally, the dreaded "communism" word sneaks in. Socialist ? Like the Trump farmers bail out ?
              Why is it when the right wing republicans give your money to others, you didn't complain and call it socialism.
              Universal income was on the dem debate. So was the Medicare stuff which warren dodged and Bernie admits too.
              I agree with the war stuff...but the dems wouldn't let trump leave Syria...and the truth is out...we are there to protect oil fields....and if you don't think the Dems knew that..I think you are wrong.

              The gun grabbing was also on the debate...they don't hide it anymore..it's right on the stage with everybody watching them answer the questions and it was a CNN debate.
              Last edited by slavenomore; 10-26-2019, 01:05 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                Just opened a letter from my Health and Welfare Fund. Nonnetwork Providers will now have a $6000 deductible/Family.
                This is due to Obamacare I'm sure. For the most part.

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                  Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                  Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                  Just opened a letter from my Health and Welfare Fund. Nonnetwork Providers will now have a $6000 deductible/Family.
                  This is due to Obamacare I'm sure. For the most part.
                  Your lucky.
                  My wife's great company supplied healthcare, that she pays for out of very check, has a $7000 deductible for the family. ( 2 of us ! )
                  Out of pocket, additional expenses included, we shell out 10 grand a year, for healthcare.

                  So where is the great, perfect, fabulous and cheaper healthcare we were all promised ?

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                    Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                    Originally posted by fxstc07 View Post
                    Your lucky.
                    My wife's great company supplied healthcare, that she pays for out of very check, has a $7000 deductible for the family. ( 2 of us ! )
                    Out of pocket, additional expenses included, we shell out 10 grand a year, for healthcare.

                    So where is the great, perfect, fabulous and cheaper healthcare we were all promised ?
                    We had that before Obama.
                    And before the free traders and deregulators destroyed the unions. For their real masters...the globalist world banks.
                    The Dems just take our good stuff and give it to everybody else......strengthening the socialists and weakening the unions.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                      Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                      We had that before Obama.
                      And before the free traders and deregulators destroyed the unions. For their real masters...the globalist world banks.
                      The Dems just take our good stuff and give it to everybody else......strengthening the socialists and weakening the unions.
                      We had a lot before Obama. And before Bush, before Clinton, before every other President. Why ?
                      Because times change, the world changes and people change.
                      So where is that great affordable healthcare that Trump promised you ?
                      “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”
                      Or:
                      “I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid”
                      Or:
                      Trump has made other, more vague promises about the repeal-and-replace endgame. “I am going to take care of everybody … Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.” More recently, Trump has promised that repeal will end with “a beautiful picture.”
                      Instead of pointing the finger at previous Presidents, like some do, why not focus on what the current President has said, and has done ?

                      You seemingly accuse the "dems" of taking away the "good stuff", yet you have missed the history lesson where the republicans have taken your tax dollars and gave it all to corporate America.

                      What has weakened the unions was great propaganda from the right. Those you support, if your response is any indication.




                      https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...romises-236021

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                        Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                        Originally posted by fxstc07 View Post
                        We had a lot before Obama. And before Bush, before Clinton, before every other President. Why ?
                        Because times change, the world changes and people change.
                        So where is that great affordable healthcare that Trump promised you ?

                        Or:

                        Or:

                        Instead of pointing the finger at previous Presidents, like some do, why not focus on what the current President has said, and has done ?

                        You seemingly accuse the "dems" of taking away the "good stuff", yet you have missed the history lesson where the republicans have taken your tax dollars and gave it all to corporate America.

                        What has weakened the unions was great propaganda from the right. Those you support, if your response is any indication.




                        https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...romises-236021
                        If you can't see that both sides screw us over, which I do....then we will always go down and not up....Trump is Independent...and he is the battering ram needed to break the system which has us going down....he may not be a union guy...he is not a military guy.The right is afraid of him as much as the left...if he leaves NONE are like him,...neither side has a trump...he could be the start of what we need to change the system imo. It will be business as usual when he's gone unless others catch on to his platform which is good minus any antiunion ideas.
                        Last edited by slavenomore; 10-27-2019, 02:02 PM.

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                          Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                          Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                          If you can't see that both sides screw us over, which I do....then we will always go down and not up....Trump is Independent...and he is the battering ram needed to break the system which has us going down....he may not be a union guy...he is not a military guy.The right is afraid of him as much as the left...if he leaves NONE are like him,...neither side has a trump...he could be the start of what we need to change the system imo. It will be business as usual when he's gone unless others catch on to his platform which is good minus any antiunion ideas.
                          Absolutely both sides screw us over. Only we, the working class and unions, seem to get a slightly better shake from the democrats then the republicans have ever gave us.
                          As for Trump being independent. Well if you consider he's all for himself and his business, then yes, he's independent.
                          He has wasted more money, told more lies and has associated himself ( and his administration ) with criminals.
                          And this is who you want to be our leader, the person selected to be the leader of the free world's greatest country ?
                          I think not.

                          BTW ... the system will never change. It's run by the wealthy. That includes the fabricator of tall tales in the White House. No proof he's rich, no proof he's ever done anything besides lie, cheat, steal and screw over anybody that ever had the displeasure of working for him. Ever see his tax returns ?

                          Good God man, Trump handed the rich a 1.5 Trillion dollar gift, bought and paid for by you and I.
                          And you don't think that is business as usual right now ?

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                            Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                            Trump is only independent for himself only and only him period!
                            After his term is over...Just watch how he is gonna treat his Followers !
                            Just keep your eyes open!

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                              Re: Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more

                              Originally posted by fedexnuno View Post
                              Trump is only independent for himself only and only him period!
                              After his term is over...Just watch how he is gonna treat his Followers !
                              Just keep your eyes open!
                              Here’s more proof of Trump selfish independent for himself

                              https://youtu.be/u4rQBL8eyOQ

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