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    From today.
    Up to 94 percent of American voters say they want an economic nationalist overhaul of the United States’ economy in the wake of the Chinese coronavirus crisis, a survey reveals.

    A survey conducted by FTI Consulting finds that American voters overwhelmingly want economic nationalist policies implemented — including more tariffs on foreign imports, mandatory country-of-origin labeling, and a requirement that goods be made in the U.S
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...nalist-agenda/

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/24/poll-up-
    94-percent-want-economic-nationalist-agenda/ mandate country-of-origin labeling so consumers are fully aware of where products are made and imported from, as well as requirements that key supplies, goods, and products be manufactured in the U.S.

    About 94 percent of Americans said they support requiring labels on each product that indicates all of the countries where the product was designed, manufactured, and assembled and indicates what percentage of the product was made in each country. Only six percent oppose the requirement.
    A petition asking President Trump’s administration to require country-of-origin labeling for beef, pork, and dairy products has gained traction online while Senators Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) and Rick Scott (R-FL) have filed legislation to require products sold online to disclose where they are made and manufactured.

    Americans, the survey finds, by large majorities want the U.S. to mandate that medical supplies, pharmaceuticals, products bought by the Defense Department, airplanes, and airplane parts be made in America.

    On medical supplies, 88 percent of Americans support a requirement that it be made in the U.S. Only 12 percent oppose such a requirement. For pharmaceuticals, products bought by the Defense Department, airplanes, and airplane parts, 81 percent to 87 percent of Americans support requiring they be made in the U.S.

    In total, about 66 percent of Americans support increasing tariffs on foreign imports while only 34 percent want more free trade agreements between the U.S. and other countries.

    Likewise, 76 percent of Americans said they are willing to pay 5 percent to 100 percent more for U.S.-made products over products made overseas. Just 24 percent said they are not willing to pay more money for U.S.-made products.

    The poll shows that Americans are increasingly growing tired of their goods being made in China. Today, about 4-in-10 Americans say they will not buy products imported from China. A plurality of about 34 percent of the 60 percent of Americans who said they will still buy products from China said they will do so but do not like the fact that they are made in China.

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    Is it the American voter that guides our country ?
    No, it's the corporate world and what they push. Several posters have complained about immigrant labor and the jobs they take away from the American worker. We know about those programs that bring foreign workers to our shore, even when we have unemployed people here. Our own President's companies do exactly that.
    The fact some American's want nationalistic policies doesn't change the fact that corporate America pulls the strings and they want cheap labor.

    U.S. Businesses React to Millions of Newly Unemployed Americans by Demanding More Foreign Workers
    Meanwhile, in an alternative universe that exists on Wall Street and in corporate boardrooms (virtual ones these days, we expect) across the country, the cry went out for more foreign workers. Under an umbrella group known as Compete America, 324 of the nation’s largest corporations signed a letter to President Trump and three cabinet secretaries extolling the virtues of unfettered access to foreign workers.
    Or, in the words of the millionaires and billionaires who signed the letter, “The stability of America’s workforce – including L-1, H-1B, and F-1 nonimmigrants – cannot be more important than at this very moment when the Trump administration and the entire nation look to our companies to reinforce the backbone of the national economy.”

    And you probably thought American workers were the backbone of our national economy. Silly you.
    https://www.immigrationreform.com/20...ionreform-com/

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    How America's Biggest Companies Made China Great Again
    BY BILL POWELL ON 6/24/19 AT 12:21 PM EDT
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    The role of big business in the current dismal state of affairs can't be ignored.

    So potent was the vision of China transforming itself from an insular, hostile and dirt poor nation into the country of "one billion customers," as James McGregor, former head of the American Chamber of Commerce in Beijing put it, that even the shock off the 1989 massacre in Tiananmen Square—the thirtieth anniversary of which just passed—faded in relatively short order. Just two years after Tiananmen, American direct investment in China shot up from just $217 million in 1991 to nearly $2 billion the next year.
    I guess when you see a nation control its cheap labor force with tanks....it looks like you have labor which can be forced to do anything.

    The big business community made it clear—first to the Clinton administration and then to his successor, George W. Bush—that trade with China was its highest priority. Washington readily agreed. "The Fortune 500 and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce didn't just influence policy," says Alan Tonelson, a veteran trade analyst in Washington, "they made policy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    How America's Biggest Companies Made China Great Again
    BY BILL POWELL ON 6/24/19 AT 12:21 PM EDT
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    I guess when you see a nation control its cheap labor force with tanks....it looks like you have labor which can be forced to do anything.

    My brother in law was a mechanical engineer that designed and maintained manufacturing machines worldwide.. He worked in China frequently.. Told me one time as he was being brought to his hotel the driver told him as they entered the valley that the whole city has grown over the last 30 or so years thanks to Walmart.. 24/7 manufacturing crap.. Whole families work the different shifts.. And there were many cities like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    My brother in law was a mechanical engineer that designed and maintained manufacturing machines worldwide.. He worked in China frequently.. Told me one time as he was being brought to his hotel the driver told him as they entered the valley that the whole city has grown over the last 30 or so years thanks to Walmart.. 24/7 manufacturing crap.. Whole families work the different shifts.. And there were many cities like this one.
    That's when Wal-Mart expanded to here. And got huge.
    Dangerous it is, relying on communist labor for cheap goods, labor and big profits.

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    I want to link this other thread from here...to show how somebody is finally speaking publically about it from the Justice Department and as Barr says in there...4 departments are involved...excepting the Treasury....most probably due to Wall St. connections.

    http://teamstersonline.com/forums/po...na-policy.html

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    https://unherd.com/thepost/even-geor...-a-china-hawk/

    This week, a world leader spoke out in strong terms about the naivety of the West in the face of China: “Neither the European public nor European political and business leaders fully understand the threat presented by Xi Jinping’s China.” The same leader described the US’ trade war with China as “coherent and genuinely partisan” and “the greatest […] foreign policy accomplishment of the Trump administration.”

    Who is the Trump-apologist in question? Presumably some nefarious Eastern European tyrant — Viktor Orbán, perhaps? Not quite; rather it is his compatriot, billionaire philanthropist and scourge of populists everywhere, George Soros. That he feels it necessary to make this argument shows just how disturbing China’s geopolitics are.

    Soros’ comments mark something else too — a wider crack up among the liberal elite. Many still cleave to the old assumptions about the onwards march of progress, the inevitability of globalisation and the benevolence of China. These progressives are stuck in the past; blinded by ideology, they cannot comprehend the politics of the future nor the re-emergence of history.

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    Oops. That sure made a bunch of right wing conspiracy theory fake news........I thought Soros was the evil empire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    Oops. That sure made a bunch of right wing conspiracy theory fake news........I thought Soros was the evil empire?
    I'm not into what he does.
    But alot of Democrat funded and liberal groups worldwide have funding by him.
    And although many think continuing downhill by trading with China is what we must do........their big liberal funder says Trump did a great job on a trade war with China.
    China is not multiracial. Not democratic. Pretty much tyrannical with 5000 people in power positions of the Chinese Communist party ruling 1.3 billion people. And alot of human rights abuses even today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    I'm not into what he does.
    But alot of Democrat funded and liberal groups worldwide have funding by him.
    And although many think continuing downhill by trading with China is what we must do........their big liberal funder says Trump did a great job on a trade war with China.
    China is not multiracial. Not democratic. Pretty much tyrannical with 5000 people in power positions of the Chinese Communist party ruling 1.3 billion people. And alot of human rights abuses even today.
    After finding the entire quote that wasn't buried behind a source with a pay wall in your link, it wasn't so much praise, it was more a warning of another weak negotiation that could possibly end with Trump selling America out...The author left out those words highlighted in red.....

    Soros called Trump’s policy on China, “coherent and genuinely bipartisan” as well as “the greatest — and perhaps only — foreign policy accomplishment of the Trump administration.”
    A little further in the article...

    Specifically, Soros said the Trump administration was right to put Huawei on the Commerce Department’s “entity list” as a national security threat, which prevents U.S. companies from engaging in business with the firm.

    In the op-ed, Soros called China “a dangerous rival in artificial intelligence and machine learning” but said its ability to compete in the 5G market is seriously hampered by Huawei’s dependence on U.S. companies.

    “As long as Huawei remains on the entity list, it will lack crucial technology and be seriously weakened,” Soros wrote.

    But Soros said he worries Trump could remove Huawei from the entity list as a concession to China during trade talks. Soros said he believes Trump will want to arrange such talks in the lead-up to the 2020 election. While amendments have been introduced in the House and Senate to prevent Trump from removing Huawei from the list without congressional consent, Trump has sought to block that restriction, Soros wrote.

    “If Republicans allow Mr. Trump to bail out the Communist Party-run telecom giant, they will be abdicating their most basic democratic responsibilities,”
    Last edited by 222lifer; 08-02-2020 at 11:20 AM.

 

 
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