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    Default Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    California regulators may force a massive solar thermal power plant in the Mojave Desert to shut down after years of under-producing electricity — not to mention the plant was blinding pilots flying over the area and incinerating birds.

    Read more: DOE-Backed Solar Plant May Close For Under-Producing Energy | The Daily Caller

    And it does all this at a cost of $200 per megawatt hour — nearly six times the cost of electricity from natural gas-fired power plants. Interestingly enough, Ivanpah uses natural gas to supplement its solar production.



    The Associated Press cited statistics presented by environmentalists in 2014 that “about a thousand… to 28,000” birds are incinerated by Ivanpah’s heliostats every year.




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    Default Re: Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    Oh my ... we fried a few birds.
    How many people die each year from coal pollution ?

    Coal plants are the nation’s top source of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions, the primary cause of global warming. In 2011, utility coal plants in the United States emitted a total of 1.7 billion tons of CO21. A typical coal plant generates 3.5 million tons of CO2 per year2.

    Burning coal is also a leading cause of smog, acid rain, and toxic air pollution. Some emissions can be significantly reduced with readily available pollution controls, but most U.S. coal plants have not installed these technologies.
    Nitrogen oxides (NOx): NOx pollution causes ground level ozone, or smog, which can burn lung tissue, exacerbate asthma, and make people more susceptible to chronic respiratory diseases.
    Particulate matter: Particulate matter (also referred to as soot or fly ash) can cause chronic bronchitis, aggravated asthma, and premature death, as well as haze obstructing visibility.
    Mercury: Coal plants are responsible for more than half of the U.S. human-caused emissions of mercury, a toxic heavy metal that causes brain damage and heart problems.
    coal power: air pollution | Union of Concerned Scientists

    Good stuff ... go live next to that coal burning plant you want to embrace.

    Pollution from electricity generation still accounted for 52,000 premature deaths annually. The largest impact was seen in the east-central United States and in the Midwest: Eastern power plants tend to use coal with higher sulfur content than Western plants.
    Study: Air pollution causes 200,000 early deaths each year in the U.S. | MIT News

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    Default Re: Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    28,000 birds incinerated? Holy cow! Who has the honor of keeping track of the deaths of the birds?

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    Default Re: Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    28,000 birds incinerated? Holy cow! Who has the honor of keeping track of the deaths of the birds?
    Mitt Romney ?

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    Default Re: Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    The solar plant is looking into using deterrents similar to what airport's use to ward off birds.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    The solar plant is looking into using deterrents similar to what airport's use to ward off birds.

    Well it's like they have found a way to stop all those bird deaths.
    They know a way to clean the air pollution from the coal burning power plants too.
    Question is, do the corporate powers want to clean the air ?

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    Default Re: Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    you homed in on the birds huh
    And it does all this at a cost of $200 per megawatt hour — nearly six times the cost of electricity from natural gas-fired power plants. Interestingly enough, Ivanpah uses natural gas to supplement its solar production.
    that's more of the point, failure

    bottom line, Obama took care of his donors. The only thing wrong with capitalism is crony capitalism.
    The Elites take you as a fool and its working. imagine the money under the guise of global warming...donor money

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    Default Re: Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    you homed in on the birds huh

    You highlighted it Strappy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strapdrager View Post
    you homed in on the birds huh


    that's more of the point, failure

    bottom line, Obama took care of his donors. The only thing wrong with capitalism is crony capitalism.
    The Elites take you as a fool and its working. imagine the money under the guise of global warming...donor money
    Crony capitalism ? Really ?
    Are you saying that the right, or the republicans don't do the same thing ?

    I'll repeat what I have stated before.
    Only a fool would believe that.

    That's kind of saying that those coal fired plants, their owners and suppliers, aren't funding some of the right leaning political process.

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    Default Re: Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy

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    Crony capitalism ? Really ?
    25) Gave tax dollars to campaign contributors and lobbyists, and falsely claimed the money was for "green energy"

    In 2009 the Obama administration gave $535 million to Solyndra, claiming that it would create 4,000 new jobs. However, instead of creating those 4,000 new jobs, the company went bankrupt. It was later revealed that the company's shareholders and executives had made substantial donations to Obama's campaign, that the company had spent a large sum of money on lobbying, and that Solyndra executives had had many meetings with White House officials.

    It was also revealed that the Obama administration had already been aware of Solyndra's financial troubles. For example, according to the company's security filings in 2009, the company had been selling its product for less than the cost of production. In 2010, Obama visited the Solyndra factory and cited it as a role model for his "stimulus" program, saying "It's here that companies like Solyndra are leading the way toward a brighter and more prosperous future." The Washington Post wrote of this, "Administration officials and outside advisers warned that President Obama should consider dropping plans to visit a solar startup company in 2010 because its mounting financial problems might ultimately embarrass the White House." Solyndra was a private company, but had been planning to use its government loans as a means of going public – so when Obama knowingly overstated the company's condition in order to help his friends at Solyndra, he broke the same law that Martha Stewart had been sent to prison for breaking.

    In September 2011, federal agents visited the homes of Brian Harrison, the company's CEO, and Chris Gronet, the company's founder, to examine computer files and documents. Also in September 2011, the U.S. Treasury Department launched an investigation.

    On September 13, 2011, the Washington Post reported on emails which showed that the Obama administration had tried to rush federal reviewers to approve the loan so Vice President Joe Biden could announce it at a September 2009 groundbreaking for the company's factory. The company was a hallmark of President Obama's plan to support clean energy technologies.

    The New York Times reported that government auditors and industry analysts had faulted the Obama administration for failing to properly evaluate the company's business proposals, as well as for failing to take note of troubling signs which were already evident. In addition, Frank Rusco, a program director at the Government Accountability Office, had found that the preliminary loan approval had been granted before officials had completed the legally mandated evaluations of the company.

    The New York Times quoted Shyam Mehta, a senior analyst at GTM Research, as saying "There was just too much misplaced zeal at the Department of Energy for this company." Among 143 companies that had expressed an interest in getting a loan guarantee, Solyndra was the first one to get approval. During the period when Solyndra's loan guarantee was under review, the company had spent nearly $1.8 million on lobbying. Tim Harris, the CEO of Solopower, a different solar panel company which had obtained a $197 million loan guarantee, told the New York Times that his company had never considered spending any money on lobbying, and that "It was made clear to us early in the process that that was clearly verboten… We were told that it was not only not helpful but it was not acceptable."

    The Washington Post reported that Solyndra had used some of the loan money to purchase new equipment which it never used, and then sold that new equipment, still in its plastic wrap, for pennies on the dollar. Former Solyndra engineer Lindsey Eastburn told the Washington Post, "After we got the loan guarantee, they were just spending money left and right… Because we were doing well, nobody cared. Because of that infusion of money, it made people sloppy."
    On September 29, 2011, the Washington Post reported that the Obama administration had continued to allow Solyndra to receive taxpayer money even after it had defaulted on its $535 million loan.

    On October 7, 2011, The Washington Post reported that newly revealed emails showed that Energy Department officials had been warned that their plan to help Solyndra by restructuring the loan might be illegal, and should be cleared with the Justice Department first. However, Energy Department officials moved ahead with the restructuring anyway, with a new deal that would repay company investors before taxpayers if the company were to default. The emails showed concerns within the Obama administration about the legality of the Energy Department's actions. In addition, an Energy Department "stimulus" adviser, Steve Spinner, had pushed for the loan, despite having recused himself because his wife's law firm had done work for the company.

    In January 2012, CBS News reported that Solyndra had thrown millions of dollars worth of brand new glass tubes into garbage dumpsters, where they ended up being shattered. Solyndra told CBS that it had conducted an exhaustive search for buyers of the glass tubes, and that no one had wanted them. However, CBS discovered that Solyndra had not offered the glass tubes for sale at either one of its two asset auctions that took place in 2011. In addition, David Lucky, a buyer and seller of such equipment, told CBS that he would have bought the tubes if he had had a chance to do so. Greg Smestad, a solar scientist who had consulted for the Department of Energy, also agreed that the tubes had value, and had asked Solyndra to donate any unwanted tubes to Santa Clara University. Smestad stated, "That really makes me sad… Those tubes represent intellectual investment. These could have had a better value to do public good. I think they owed the U.S. taxpayer that."
    MORE...
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