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  • The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/t...-of-hispanics/
    The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About the politics of race.
    By Mike Gonzalez
    America's surging politics of victimhood and identitarian division did not emerge organically or inevitably, as many believe. Nor are these practices the result of irrepressible demands by minorities for recognition, or for redress of past wrongs, as we are constantly told. Those explanations are myths, spread by the activists, intellectuals, and philanthropists who set out deliberately, beginning at mid-century, to redefine our country. Their goal was mass mobilization for political ends, and one of their earliest targets was the Mexican-American community. These activists strived purposefully to turn Americans of this community (who mostly resided in the Southwestern states) against their countrymen, teaching them first to see themselves as a racial minority and then to think of themselves as the core of a pan-ethnic victim group of “Hispanics”—a fabricated term with no basis in ethnicity, culture, or race.

    This transformation took effort—because many Mexican Americans had traditionally seen themselves as white. When the 1930 Census classified “Mexican American” as a race, leaders of the community protested vehemently and had the classification changed back to white in the very next census. The most prominent Mexican-American organization at the time—the patriotic, pro-assimilationist League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC)—complained that declassifying Mexicans as white had been an attempt to “discriminate between the Mexicans themselves and other members of the white race, when in truth and fact we are not only a part and parcel but as well the sum and substance of the white race.” Tracing their ancestry in part to the Spanish who conquered South and Central America, they regarded themselves as offshoots of white Europeans.

    Such views may surprise readers today, but this was the way many Mexican Americans saw their race until mid-century.
    A different take than what I'm used to reading.
    Last edited by slavenomore; 12-21-2019, 09:51 PM.

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    Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

    Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
    https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/t...-of-hispanics/
    The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About the politics of race.
    By Mike Gonzalez


    A different take than what I'm used to reading.
    Very interesting. Wondering how true it is. My husbands grandfather who was Native American was also listed as white on all his military papers. He was born here in New Mexico with a Spanish last name. Very typical of many Native Americans in New Mexico. But the rest of my husband's family originally came from Mexico a couple of generations back and his father has always identified as a Chicano. We are all one race, just of different ethnic backgrounds..

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    • #3
      Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

      Originally posted by ABFwife View Post
      We are all one race, just of different ethnic backgrounds..
      You have said it eloquently. We are all the human race.

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        Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

        Hmmm...well I guess I am the Other white Meat, Spaniard by my Father’s side, and a mixture of Mexican blood from my Mom, that her Family is Original Californian when Califas was Mexico back then.
        So my breed would be consider a “Mestizo”

        noun
        (in Latin America) a man of mixed race, especially one having Spanish and indigenous descent.

        Okay I could live with this

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          Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

          Originally posted by fedexnuno View Post
          Hmmm...well I guess I am the Other white Meat, Spaniard by my Father’s side, and a mixture of Mexican blood from my Mom, that her Family is Original Californian when Califas was Mexico back then.
          So my breed would be consider a “Mestizo”

          noun
          (in Latin America) a man of mixed race, especially one having Spanish and indigenous descent.

          Okay I could live with this
          Frankly, we are all mixed race. But I still prefer human race.

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            Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

            Originally posted by fxstc07 View Post
            Frankly, we are all mixed race. But I still prefer human race.
            You’re absolutely right Brother...even better, we are all God Children’s

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              Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

              Originally posted by fxstc07 View Post
              You have said it eloquently. We are all the human race.
              The story says the divisions come from the socialists....probably true.
              When Nuno first came on here his description of himself was Spanish from Spain I believe....and the story says how the Hispanics do not like being all lumped into one group....I have found truth in that...the Dominicans and Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and Nicaraguans are not all happy about being lumped together totally. They all have different pride in their own people.

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                Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                The story says the divisions come from the socialists....probably true.
                When Nuno first came on here his description of himself was Spanish from Spain I believe....and the story says how the Hispanics do not like being all lumped into one group....I have found truth in that...the Dominicans and Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and Nicaraguans are not all happy about being lumped together totally. They all have different pride in their own people.
                "The divisions came from the socialists, probably true" ... your words. Where are the divisions coming from in this country NOW ?
                I don't know the real answer to what you said. Any chance it's true ? Don't know. I think the socialists did have a division, the working class and the ruling class.

                I believe it is great to have pride in your ethnic origins. We all celebrate something from that.
                Still in the end, we just just human beings, created as God's children.

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                  Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                  Originally posted by fxstc07 View Post
                  "The divisions came from the socialists, probably true" ... your words. Where are the divisions coming from in this country NOW ?
                  I don't know the real answer to what you said. Any chance it's true ? Don't know. I think the socialists did have a division, the working class and the ruling class.

                  I believe it is great to have pride in your ethnic origins. We all celebrate something from that.
                  Still in the end, we just just human beings, created as God's children.
                  When you want to divide by race and gender and class..its usually the Dems.
                  When you want to divide by religion or nationality or no religion...it's usually the GOP.
                  It is not equal power that any political groups desire...it is really MORE THAN EQUAL rights that they want.
                  The evil doesn't just work one side of the fence...it wants both. And it is in both.

                  My point with this story is that the Mexican Americans had to actually sue multiple times to keep them as " white"..but the left kept " forcing" them into the box that would help them politically....they did not want to be seen as different.....they wanted to be equal.....but we're forced into an undignified box for Democrat power purposes...I box which said they needed extra help....that they were mistreated...that they needed the Dems to fight a battle for them which did not exist...they created it....and now generations later the Dems have a voting block....but these people lost their dignity because they got hooked on the political dope forced on them...not drugs but propaganda.
                  They say they need equal rights after they took them...and now they want to help them get " MORE than equal" rights.....and the people who don't get them more than equal rights....begin to resent them.....the hate is created by Democratic politicians in this case.

                  Trump just signed an executive order for the Jews.
                  It will not get them equal rights but more than equal rights lawsuits against universities were filed the first day....free victimhood money......they don't want Palestinians to have a say with protests on campuses....and if it happens universities get sued....one wrong word which does not cater to the victim...loses money from places and the so called victim gets money.......since when can politics not be protested at universities? Israel/Palestine is a legitimate protest imo....no more....because the hate card is now played...played to silence and favor one over another...not to protect...protection is needed from violence not speech.....sticks and stones can break my bones..but words can never hurt me.......a kid saying...
                  No more....adults and lawyers and politicians have opportunity to cash in and hurt due to words.

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                    Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                    I would think that the last thing I posted above about the Jews and colleges and universities is very dangerous.. The higher educations may only be able to teach Jew. favoring teachings...anything against what they feel is correct teaching could be sued....silenced.
                    The higher educated graduates then become teachers of the lower grades of schools or experts on subjects after graduating........and only one side can be taught?

                    I've read very different stories on the Inquisitions and the Reformation that we were all taught in school.......the recent stuff looks more accurate....almost as if there has been a Catholic bias in our public schools...
                    Can Catholics go protest for these same types of reasons?

                    Why not just drop all the labels....because it looks like it's really not all victims but..people who want more power than the rest. Dangerous power in some cases.
                    Last edited by slavenomore; 12-29-2019, 07:45 AM.

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                      Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                      Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                      When you want to divide by race and gender and class..its usually the Dems.
                      Yep, couldn't get past this any further. What a joke.
                      The right, and the wacko radical right, all aligned with republicanism, are the race baiting radicals that want the division. They seem to think white is everything and people of any color are enemy's.
                      Look round at what's been posted previously. The right kills and threatens more people in this country every year.

                      You need to go back to church and listen to what is said.

                      And no, I'm not reading anymore of that post, or the following one as I noticed you jumped right on the Jewish.

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                        Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                        Originally posted by fxstc07 View Post
                        Yep, couldn't get past this any further. What a joke.
                        The right, and the wacko radical right, all aligned with republicanism, are the race baiting radicals that want the division. They seem to think white is everything and people of any color are enemy's.
                        Look round at what's been posted previously. The right kills and threatens more people in this country every year.

                        You need to go back to church and listen to what is said.

                        And no, I'm not reading anymore of that post, or the following one as I noticed you jumped right on the Jewish.
                        Trump signed the Jewish order. It labels them as race, nation and religion....untouchable to Criticize at the colleges now......would you like the Church untouchable to criticism?
                        I doubt that.
                        The right has blind people.
                        The left has blind people.
                        The story is real history written by a Mexican American.
                        It shows that the left wanted to divide the Mexican Americans and put them in a box for their own purposes.
                        And it was the left.
                        There is hate on both sides and that becomes quite clear.
                        Hate and ignorance and refusal to look at facts.

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                          Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                          I have a neighbor that his grandparents were from Catalonia Spain near the border of France.. He goes back often.. Now being from Spain he refuses to call himself "hispanic".. his family have relatives on both sides of the border..So his question was always..Having relatives in Spain and France does that mean he comes from a mixed ethnic group?? His skin is lighter than mine..
                          I agree with Slave on his statement that there is hate on both sides of the isle.. I can blame the democrats and there are those on here that say it's the republicans fault and Trump is a racist.. hate is in the heart as love is in the heart..Someone said we are all God's children.. I agree 100%..
                          Its when one uses a race card to further a goal that divides America..Today we live in a divided country.. Both racial and political..

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                          • #14
                            Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                            Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                            The story is real history written by a Mexican American.
                            I'm quite sure there isn't any political bias when the author is in the Koch's pockets.......

                            Mike Gonzalez is a senior fellow at The Heritage Foundation's Kathryn and Shelby Cullom Davis Institute for International Studies.
                            https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/a...mike-gonzalez/

                            The Heritage Foundation concerns itself with many issues in over 30 subject areas, including both domestic and foreign policy, from health care to arms control. It regularly publishes comprehensive articles, papers, and journals developing and expressing conservative positions in these subject areas. Heritage research staff are organized into three research institutes: The Institute for Economic Freedom and Opportunity, The Institute for Family, Community, and Opportunity, and The Kathryn and Shelby Collum Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy.
                            https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...age_Foundation

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                              Re: The Invention Of Hispanics. What It Says About The Politics Of Race.

                              Originally posted by 222lifer View Post
                              I'm quite sure there isn't any political bias when the author is in the Koch's pockets.......



                              https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/a...mike-gonzalez/



                              https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...age_Foundation
                              Does it make the lawsuits that the Mexican Americans filed to not be looked at as different...a lie?
                              I'm no fan of the Kochs either....nor Heritage....but Heritage also carried the story supporting Bush version of Obamacare....before Obama.....I dislike both versions now..but sometimes sources funded by opposition can bring truth also.

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