Protests 2020

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Violence is never the answer. Violence begets violence. I hear the outrage over this latest incident. I detect subtle threats to harm people. Just like this one man did, and he is being condemned, rightly so. All violence should be condemned. It's not the answer. But here we are reading that a few people seem to think the heavy hand of militia type law enforcement is acceptable.
Picking the wrong person isn't the reason someone will suffer again. It's the hatred sparked by the radical right.
Let us remember who actually is violent. Proof is in the numbers.

Trump frequently accuses the far-left of inciting violence, yet right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while antifa members haven't killed any, according to a new study



https://www.businessinsider.com/righ...rom%20%251%24s

I guess that store owner in Texas that was beaten nearly to death didn't count?? or the Federal Agent I believe in California that was shot and killed?? Or the former Police Captain that was murdered in the St Louis area while he was guarding his buddies store?? Do these murders count or is it like Black Lives Matter than only count a handful of black lives?? and then you have the two murders in that community Antifa had in seattle.. Do you think they would have been mudered if the Seattle mayor did her job instead of bending to the protests demands??

Deadly unrest: Here are the people who have died amid George Floyd protests across US

David Dorn, a 77-year-old retired St. Louis police captain was shot and killed on June 2 by looters who broke into a pawn shop. Dorn went to the pawn shop to check on a burglar alarm.

Patrick Underwood, 53, a federal officer, died as he was providing security at a U.S. courthouse in Oakland, Calif., during a protest when someone fired shots from a vehicle. Another officer was critically wounded.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-un...ests-across-us

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...ete-riot-store


These are from the same violent protests the Rep Nadler calls a myth??

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The spin is laughable here.
Dismiss hundreds of murders by the radical right and shift the blame for violence to the left.
Blame George Floyd for having drugs in his system, yet that wasn't the listed cause of death. It was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression" as the cause.
Point out violence during protests, yet never mention those who have murdered over 300 people while acting as American jihadi groups.
Right wing extremism is a virus now affecting this country and the people that side with the right wing radicals are the problem.

Right-Wingers Are America’s Deadliest Terrorists

When a white supremacist gunman killed more than 20 people at an El Paso, Texas, Walmart on Saturday, he claimed a dubious honor for his cause: Right-wing terrorism is once again responsible for more deaths on U.S. soil (107) than jihadi terrorism (104) since 9/11, according to data collected by New America. (In fact, right-wing violence had been responsible for more deaths for most of this period, but jihadis had been responsible for more since the Pulse nightclub shooting of 2016.)
Patrick Crusius’ attack itself was especially bloody, the most lethal right-wing attack since Timothy McVeigh’s bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, which killed 168 people. But the El Paso killings were a continuation of a bloody series of attacks in recent years, including the Tree of Life synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh in 2018 and the 2015 attack on a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina, which killed 11 and nine people, respectively. And such high-profile attacks are few compared with regular incidents of low-level harassment and violence against blacks, Jews, Muslims, and other minorities.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...adicalism.html

[crazy]

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Violence is never the answer. Violence begets violence. I hear the outrage over this latest incident. I detect subtle threats to harm people. Just like this one man did, and he is being condemned, rightly so. All violence should be condemned. It's not the answer. But here we are reading that a few people seem to think the heavy hand of militia type law enforcement is acceptable.
Picking the wrong person isn't the reason someone will suffer again. It's the hatred sparked by the radical right.
Let us remember who actually is violent. Proof is in the numbers.

Trump frequently accuses the far-left of inciting violence, yet right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while antifa members haven't killed any, according to a new study



https://www.businessinsider.com/righ...rom%20%251%24s

The spin is laughable here.
Dismiss hundreds of murders by the radical right and shift the blame for violence to the left.
Blame George Floyd for having drugs in his system, yet that wasn't the listed cause of death. It was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression" as the cause.
Point out violence during protests, yet never mention those who have murdered over 300 people while acting as American jihadi groups.
Right wing extremism is a virus now affecting this country and the people that side with the right wing radicals are the problem.

Right-Wingers Are America’s Deadliest Terrorists


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...adicalism.html

From your above quote from yesterday with the link you provided it was deaths due to ANTIFA was zero.. I pointed out just the last few months since the death of Floyd.. And you call it spin?? Afraid of the truth?? I have said in the past and I will say it again..There is no room in our society for "Hate" groups including the right and the left.. I haven't seen you denounce Antifa.. If you have then I missed it..

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The spin is laughable here.
Dismiss hundreds of murders by the radical right and shift the blame for violence to the left.
Blame George Floyd for having drugs in his system, yet that wasn't the listed cause of death. It was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression" as the cause.
Point out violence during protests, yet never mention those who have murdered over 300 people while acting as American jihadi groups.
Right wing extremism is a virus now affecting this country and the people that side with the right wing radicals are the problem.

Right-Wingers Are America’s Deadliest Terrorists


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...adicalism.html

Protests are currently happening.The spin changes nothing,past tense is what your promoting has zero to do with the animals of today in Portland or Seattle


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Protests are currently happening.The spin changes nothing,past tense is what your promoting has zero to do with the animals of today in Portland or Seattle


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But it is what they do when they have nothing else. Spin and some are very very good at it..

[slavenomore]

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Floyd had 2 autopsies.
One first by the county and then by private lawyers. No doubt tied to democrats.
https://www.katc.com/about
He also was positive with Covid.
The best message to send the nation would be...when a cop says something you do it and you do it quickly....do not do drugs....do not be in public on drugs. Do not drive on drugs. And then this wouldn't happen.
Police see with their own eyes the risks and must do what they must do.
You do not turn it into racism and hate towards cops. You might need them some day.

[crazy]

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Floyd had 2 autopsies.
One first by the county and then by private lawyers. No doubt tied to democrats.
https://www.katc.com/about
He also was positive with Covid.
The best message to send the nation would be...when a cop says something you do it and you do it quickly....do not do drugs....do not be in public on drugs. Do not drive on drugs. And then this wouldn't happen.
Police see with their own eyes the risks and must do what they must do.
You do not turn it into racism and hate towards cops. You might need them some day.

That he died from an overdose?? Doesn't fit the narrative of the Main Stream Media..Sometimes the truth sets their agenda back.. How many times have we heard about that five year old white boy executed by his black neighbor?? How many riots were there for him?? How many funeral processions?? For the media it is all about the bottom line and they will push stories that fit their agenda..

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That he died from an overdose?? Doesn't fit the narrative of the Main Stream Media..Sometimes the truth sets their agenda back.. How many times have we heard about that five year old white boy executed by his black neighbor?? How many riots were there for him?? How many funeral processions?? For the media it is all about the bottom line and they will push stories that fit their agenda..

The dims own the media only tell you what fits their agenda, double standard,absolutly.
Not hardly a peep about the 5 yr old.We can only imagine if the races were opposite ,all hell would have broke out.

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Heard about this from another source.
I'll let you decide.

LEAKED DOCUMENTS SHOW POLICE KNEW FAR-RIGHT EXTREMISTS WERE THE REAL THREAT AT PROTESTS, NOT “ANTIFA”

AS PROTESTS AGAINST police violence spread to every state in the U.S. and dramatic images flooded in from cities across the country, President Donald Trump and his attorney general spun an ominous story of opportunistic leftists exploiting a national trauma to sow chaos and disorder. They were the anti-fascists known as “antifa”, and according to the administration they were domestic terrorists who would be policed accordingly.
But while the White House beat the drum for a crackdown on a leaderless movement on the left, law enforcement offices across the country were sharing detailed reports of far-right extremists seeking to attack the protesters and police during the country’s historic demonstrations, a trove of newly leaked documents reveals.
Among the steady stream of threats from the far-right were repeated encounters between law enforcement and heavily armed adherents of the so-called boogaloo movement, which welcomes armed confrontation with cops as means to trigger civil war.

Department of Homeland Security circulated a tweet to law enforcement agencies across the country reporting that antifa was stashing bricks to “fuel protests.” The intelligence made its way to a law enforcement fusion center in Maine. Last week, Mainer magazine tracked down the original source of the tweet: a far-right, pro-Trump biker who goes by the name “the Wolfman,” who claimed that Facebook kept deleting his brick-planting evidence “because they are BLM supporters.”

Yet the leaked materials show that on May 29, two days before Trump tweeted that antifa would be labeled a terrorist organization and Barr issued his DOJ statement, the president’s own DHS analysts issued an open source intelligence report detailing how a white supremacist channel on Telegram, an encrypted messaging service, was encouraging followers to capitalize on the unrest by targeting the police with Molotov cocktails and firearms.
“The use of firearms greatly influences the scale and intensity of these events,” a source in the group, titled “National Accelerationist Revival,” wrote on May 27, advising followers to break police lines “with cocktails, chainsaws, and firearms.”

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/...-right-antifa/

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We have another shooting that involves a black man and the Police in Wisconsin. The riots are continuing in Portland and I understand from some other stories that three radical right militia groups are forming out there in order to instigate extreme violence.
Then I come across this story that perfectly represents the double standard that the protesters are subject to, while others get away with armed entry into a court house and nothing is done.

Unmasked Protesters Push Past Police Into Idaho Lawmakers' Session

In Boise, the first day of Idaho's special legislative session erupted into chaos before it began. Dozens of unmasked protesters, some of them armed, shoved their way past state troopers to pack the gallery overlooking the state's House of Representatives.
The clash was a manifestation of the anger and frustration from a vocal minority of far-right Idahoans that has been compounding over the last several months as the state has navigated its reopening amid the pandemic.
To enforce social distancing, the gallery area above the House chamber was restricted with limited seating. But after the confrontation with state troopers, which resulted in the shattering of a glass door, Republican House Speaker Scott Bedke relented and allowed protesters to fill every seat.

Protesters later made their way into committee rooms, defaced paper signs meant to leave one empty seat between those in the audience and laughed at one Democratic state lawmaker who refused to participate in the hearing because of the lack of social distancing.
The group of protesters included supporters of a far-right militia and anti-vaccine advocates who were at the Idaho Capitol to demand an end to the current state of emergency and blast a proposal that would limit civil liability for businesses, schools and governments.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/90578...makers-session

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We have another shooting that involves a black man and the Police in Wisconsin. The riots are continuing in Portland and I understand from some other stories that thee radical right militia groups are forming out there in order to instigate extreme violence.
Then I come across this story that perfectly represents the double standard that the protesters are subject to, while others get away with armed entry into a court house and nothing is done.

Unmasked Protesters Push Past Police Into Idaho Lawmakers' Session



https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/90578...makers-session

So where did it say in the leftist npr article that the radical right wing, burned,looted or destroyed private or public property.Double standard, please give us a break.The criminals are anarchist ,blm,communist purveyors of violence, bought and paid for by anti-American scum.

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Philly has a problem brewing trying to move the peaceful protesters. Is the Democrat mayor having a hard time?

[slavenomore]

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https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...camps/2513007/

"We've received nearly 400 complaints from residents both around the (Ben Franklin) Parkway and in North Philadelphia," Kenney said. The two sites are along the Parkway near the Philadelphia Art Museum and on Ridge Avenue in North Philadelphia.

About 30 minutes ahead of the deadline on Aug. 18,, people could be seen preparing for a confrontation and to barricade themselves, if needed. They gathered under a "Housing Now" banner.

By 11 a.m. that day, the parkway camp remained with activists having set up a barrier blocking part of the road. There were some heated exchanges between demonstrators and people living in properties along the parkway, but no physical confrontations were seen.

The tent camp on a baseball field on the parkway, which began on June 10 and grew to an estimated 100 to 150 people, was originally slated to be closed in July, but the mayor postponed the action in hopes of reaching a resolution.

Kenney had said on Aug. 17 that after weeks of face-to-face discussions he had concluded that further negotiations would do no good. He said camp leaders' demands keep shifting, and some of their demands are out of the City's control or unachievable in the time they demand

[crazy]

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https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...camps/2513007/

Nothing there,just like Seattle,a summer of love..

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It appears we have some supporters of the radical right. The proud boys and others seem to get a free pass in all the excitement. Guns are acceptable to bring to protests and now the police are taking a no hands approach to "willing participants".
No double standard ? I think many see otherwise.

Portland Police Are Giving Up On Policing The Far-Right

The Portland Police Bureau appears to have almost given up monitoring far-right factions on the streets of the city of Oregon, despite the recent rise in violence, with these extremists throwing explosives and incendiary weapons and, in one case, shooting other protesters.
It is common for right-wing extremist groups like the Proud Boys in Portland to exchange blows with counter-protesters. They have been doing this for years, often when PPB officials watched until a riot was officially declared and the police then cleared the streets with tear gas and other ammunition.
As officers stood by on Saturday, the Proud Boys and their far-right friends attacked and intimidated anti-fascist protesters with paintball guns, maces, fireworks, aluminum bats and various firearms, according to the Washington Post.

Allowing local right-wing extremist groups to devastate the city is not a big step for the PPB. While the Proud Boys cheered, officials shot tear gas and other ammunition at anti-fascist counter-protesters during a rally in 2017, with an anti-fascist protester holding a gas canister. The police gave the Proud Boys an escort from the city after a rally in 2018, during which the far-right demonstrators were numerically among the anti-fascists. A key officer had a friendly and lasting relationship with the leader of Proud Boys' constituency Patriot Prayer, judging by the Willamette Week texts.

Long before this month's events, the Proud Boys and other local Portland groups had been encouraged by government inaction during their rallies. The Proud Boys leadership admitted at a rally last year that one of their stated goals was to continue such demonstrations to waste taxpayers money, overload the city's resources and embarrass Democratic Mayor Ted Wheeler. (For his part, Wheeler released a statement Monday saying he had "closely examined" the PPB's "strategy to limit its intervention.")
Now it seems that the Proud Boys not only enjoy a wider arsenal at their rallies, but also a tacit promise from the city that they will hardly or not at all be intervened by the police.

https://www.ampgoo.com/portland-poli...-the-far-right