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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    I think he answered that question already.
    That is a slogan. Not a way to organize freight company's.

    As long as the laws stay as they are, there will be little chance to organize freight company's. The company can just fire the organizers, threaten the employees and stone wall any negotiations.

    Why? Because as long as the GOP has any say in labor law, labor will get the short end of the stick.

    Electing a new president of the union is not going to change any laws. We need a super majority in the US senate to pass any meaningful labor law. Without this we are stuck in the quagmire of corporate mud.

    You may 'FEEL' better if Hoffa is out, but the feeling will subside into the reality that without new laws, no Union president is going to have a fair chance at organizing freight.
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    Why can't some people understand. WE DON"T WANT HOFFA. Some have so little respect for themselves that they can't see where Hoffa has taken us. Those of us who have been Teamsters for YEARS AND YEARS don't like the road HOFFA has taken. Try to understand we don't agree with the way he does things. That is our right as TEAMSTERS. We don't need someone with less days than we have years telling us what we want and don't want. WE don't like what he has done to our union. Can those of you that back HOFFA understand. We don't mind you saying how you feel about Hoffa but don't tell us what we should feel. By the way those that jumped on the Hoffa Keegal bandwagon and downloaded those petitions to be signed how did that go?lol YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!

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    Personally I'm all ears for the Fred guy..but have not heard anything which impresses me yet..He wrote a letter with accusations but no facts..That does not impress me..Give me facts.
    Other wise i think Hoffa has been working on somew very important things for us recently....the ports. The mexican trucks..and afew more things which have been accomplished according to the Teamsters "take action" thing.

    Things have gone backwards for many years for most unions.. And some important things have been changing...but what is this new guy really gonna do? Can anybody say what he really plans on doing and what he will do..It wil take alot more than busting on the guy before ya to impress me..Hoffa has some bigtime political ties and that seems important to me...and it may seem like what Fred does not like...With no political ties I see us going backwards really quickly..Does Fred have any? If he'd say what's on his mind that may help..Like who is Hoffa associalting with that we would not like?
    And their are accusations in Fred's site from a guy who was hired to clean up..But he only speaks halfway also..Why would ya start to say that maybe Hoffa is hooked with gangsters and then shut up? Why not say who? If ya don't say who...I think you're full of crap...and just tarnishing images with BS and halftalk..If you're gonna talk..then talk......I am all ears and it'll take quite awile for my mind to be made up. I am all ears to hear what is so great about this guy..other than the fact that his name is not Hoffa..that ain't enough for me yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    Personally I'm all ears for the Fred guy..but have not heard anything which impresses me yet..He wrote a letter with accusations but no facts..That does not impress me..Give me facts.
    Other wise i think Hoffa has been working on somew very important things for us recently....the ports. The mexican trucks..and afew more things which have been accomplished according to the Teamsters "take action" thing.

    Things have gone backwards for many years for most unions.. And some important things have been changing...but what is this new guy really gonna do? Can anybody say what he really plans on doing and what he will do..It wil take alot more than busting on the guy before ya to impress me..Hoffa has some bigtime political ties and that seems important to me...and it may seem like what Fred does not like...With no political ties I see us going backwards really quickly..Does Fred have any? If he'd say what's on his mind that may help..Like who is Hoffa associalting with that we would not like?
    And their are accusations in Fred's site from a guy who was hired to clean up..But he only speaks halfway also..Why would ya start to say that maybe Hoffa is hooked with gangsters and then shut up? Why not say who? If ya don't say who...I think you're full of crap...and just tarnishing images with BS and half talk..If you're gonna talk..then talk......I am all ears and it'll take quite a while for my mind to be made up. I am all ears to hear what is so great about this guy..other than the fact that his name is not Hoffa..that ain't enough for me yet.
    You are right in waiting for all the facts. But don't forget Hoffa has had YEARS to work on the Mexican trucking issue and he has done nothing. So wouldn't you be more unbelieving of him than Gegare? On who is blowing smoke and who isn't? What ever Hoffa says he will do if reelected and what he really will do are two different things. His TRACK RECORD WILL SPEAK FOR IT'S SELF. He rolled over for UPS. He has let the trucking divisions of the Teamsters sink to the lowest level in history. He more than doubled our dues, He has the worst panel members in the history of the Teamsters. Just look at the monthly decisions in your state and you will see what i am saying is true. We have a freight director that sides with the companies when they come to take away our hard earned money for our families. He doesn't have the politicians WE have them. After all it is our DRIVE money that gets the CRUMBS they throw us not Hoffa. We gave all that money and votes to the politicians not Hoffa. He is but one vote. Our pension funds are in trouble under Hoffa's watch. No I will not follow blindly but I also learned as a little BOY. After the first time I got it caught in a zipper I knew that was never going to happen AGAIN. Is Fred the right man? I don't know. But I don't need to hear what Hoffa has to say because I already know what he is going to do about our problems. The same as he has done for the last ten years NOTHING! YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS! PS All on has to do is look and see he has TJ back on his slate. Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MULER View Post
    Why can't some people understand. WE DON"T WANT HOFFA. Some have so little respect for themselves that they can't see where Hoffa has taken us. Those of us who have been Teamsters for YEARS AND YEARS don't like the road HOFFA has taken. Try to understand we don't agree with the way he does things. That is our right as TEAMSTERS. We don't need someone with less days than we have years telling us what we want and don't want. WE don't like what he has done to our union. Can those of you that back HOFFA understand. We don't mind you saying how you feel about Hoffa but don't tell us what we should feel. By the way those that jumped on the Hoffa Keegal bandwagon and downloaded those petitions to be signed how did that go?lol YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
    Getting the Hoffa/Hall-2011 petitions signed up this week.
    And 'I' still respect myself.

    Who is this 'we' you speak of?

    Weather you are a Teamster for one month, one year or dozens of years, we all have the same right to support whom ever we choose.

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    Default Re: Will you consider Fred?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster2008 View Post
    As long as the laws stay as they are, there will be little chance to organize freight company's. The company can just fire the organizers, threaten the employees and stone wall any negotiations.
    We can say that for any organizing drive, can't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    We can say that for any organizing drive, can't we?
    Absolutely. The post-er was talking about freight.

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    Default Re: Will you consider Fred?

    Some should try reading all the post in a thread instead of just reading what they post. How many election violations has the Hoffa campaign had already? VOTE FOR CHANGE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MULER View Post
    Some should try reading all the post in a thread instead of just reading what they post.

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    Default Re: Will you consider Fred?

    Quote Originally Posted by MULER View Post
    Some should try reading all the post in a thread instead of just reading what they post. How many election violations has the Hoffa campaign had already? VOTE FOR CHANGE!
    PLEASE don't say that "vote for change" LOL we will not make that mistake AGAIN!! LOL B H O

 

 
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