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    I just received very reliable information from a source inside the IBT regarding the reluctance of the IBT to become involved with the Local 804 situation. My friend reports:

    " I asked if the International did anything to support the workers there getting their jobs back. I was told that, as far as they knew, there was an inside conversation to lay off of that because .... IT WAS CAREY'S OLD LOCAL ..."

    So, there you go.

    Hoffa is our weakness; Hoffa is the reason OUR Union is behind the 8 ball.

    .................................................. .................................................. ..........................

    As the shareholders of this organization, I see no reason that we should not be able to FORCE an election. It is clear we don't agree with the direction this administration is taking OUR UNION. This is no dictatorship; the Labor Union is the essence of democracy and worker power. We don't have midterm elections in the Teamsters, but we should. How would you rate his performance thus far? Over the last 15 years?
    Recall Hoffa. Rebuild the IBT.
    If every concerned member of our great Teamsters Union would sign this, we could make plans to deliver it in person. 400 isn't going to do it.

    Sign to RECALL HOFFA/HALL!
    Declaration of No Confidence in General President James P. Hoffa and General Executive Board of IBT Petition
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    That comes as no surprise,they had no reluctance standing up and taking some form of credit for the re-hire,fair weather leadership ats it's finest.

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    Show proof and not this "I heard this from a reliable source" BS before you start things like this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkUPGF View Post
    Show proof and not this "I heard this from a reliable source" BS before you start things like this!

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    I would have to agree with you on this one
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    I will agree that at this point with out being able to validate the source this is rumor. With that being said, just how do we put up a link to insider information? It is just that. Hell, without that type of information the SEC would be twiddling their thumbs. Take the information and use it as you will. Put the pieces of the puzzle together. That is why we have these forums to share information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkUPGF View Post
    Show proof and not this "I heard this from a reliable source" BS before you start things like this!

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    Don't you think that if I could safely divulge the source I would? Have you given consideration to the sensitivity of what is at issue here? These are IBT employees making this statement- not members. Their jobs would be on the line. If it were possible to safely source them, I certainly would have done so.

    As far as confirmation goes, consider the past 15 years of "representation". Consider that in 1999, we were supposed to have the gov't out of the Union, according to Hoffa: "The mob's not coming back in the Teamsters Union. We've gotten rid of them, and we're free to be free of government supervision."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbuster133 View Post
    Don't you think that if I could safely divulge the source I would? Have you given consideration to the sensitivity of what is at issue here? These are IBT employees making this statement- not members. Their jobs would be on the line. If it were possible to safely source them, I certainly would have done so.

    As far as confirmation goes, consider the past 15 years of "representation". Consider that in 1999, we were supposed to have the gov't out of the Union, according to Hoffa: "The mob's not coming back in the Teamsters Union. We've gotten rid of them, and we're free to be free of government supervision."
    Safely?

    So their jobs would be on the line if they spoke the truth? I agree that Hoffa has NOT done good by us, but lets be realistic here. If your going to say it you better be able to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    I will agree that at this point with out being able to validate the source this is rumor. With that being said, just how do we put up a link to insider information? It is just that. Hell, without that type of information the SEC would be twiddling their thumbs. Take the information and use it as you will. Put the pieces of the puzzle together. That is why we have these forums to share information.

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    I thought it was this forums policy to attach a link or some source to prove or disprove what has been put to paper? Have the rules changed? Are we to pick and chose what is fact and what is not because that's what we WANT to hear or read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkUPGF View Post
    I thought it was this forums policy to attach a link or some source to prove or disprove what has been put to paper? Have the rules changed? Are we to pick and chose what is fact and what is not because that's what we WANT to hear or read?

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    Mark, I believe Lifer explained it the best way he could and I agree with him.. Hearsay is not something that you can have a link to.. It is also something that either you believe or choose not to believe.. The way the IBT has handled things since Hoffa has been in power I personally believe the story as it was posted but then again I am not a fan of Mr. Hoffa.. When Hoffa first ran for the office he said he was going to clean up the union.. IMO if he didn't have name recognition,he would never had gotten elected the second time.. Why do you think that so many of the locals throughout the country side with the regime in power??? There's that word again.. Retribution.. The power comes from Washington.. Nothing but politics..
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy View Post
    Mark, I believe Lifer explained it the best way he could and I agree with him.. Hearsay is not something that you can have a link to.. It is also something that either you believe or choose not to believe.. The way the IBT has handled things since Hoffa has been in power I personally believe the story as it was posted but then again I am not a fan of Mr. Hoffa.. When Hoffa first ran for the office he said he was going to clean up the union.. IMO if he didn't have name recognition,he would never had gotten elected the second time.. Why do you think that so many of the locals throughout the country side with the regime in power??? There's that word again.. Retribution.. The power comes from Washington.. Nothing but politics..
    I'm with you on this, But it can't be both ways is what I'm saying...how many times have threads been deleted because there were no links or proof to back them up?

    The OP is putting removal from office petitions on hearsay.

    Let's be fair here. Let's put our money where our mouths are.

    Mark
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