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    The word Scab brings out the most heated feelings from Union workers and non Union as well. How many times have you heard a "non" say, "it only means a person that crosses a picket line?"

    This word "scab" is offensive to the non union workforce when we use it as a descriptive because they don't understand or know why. Many don't understand that we use the word "scab" or "scabby" in our vocabulary to define our most despised non union company trait...The mistreatment of their employees.

    If you look further into what a scab is by medical definition and change a few words, it becomes clear that the word scab can also be used to define certain characteristics in many companies work force as well as many companies most despised traits.

    Their job is to protect the cut (company) by keeping germs and other stuff out (Unions and their organizers) and giving the skin cells (management) underneath a chance to heal (prepare against an organizing drive).

    If you look at a scab (a back stabbing, arse kissing, rat fink co-worker), it probably just looks like a hard, reddish glob (everyday Joe). But under its surface, all kinds of things are going on (plotting with management to undermine organizing efforts, ratting out pro union co-workers). New skin cells (anti union propaganda) are being made to help repair (mislead) the torn skin (mistreated, beaten down workers wishing to organize). Damaged blood vessels are being fixed (company derails what could have been a successful organizing campaign, continues to mistreat their employees, and disciplines or terminates the organizing employees within).

    What's a Scab?

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    I like your definition better.
    Scab is a very versatile term that can be used in a wide number of applications, much like the F-bomb.
    One way, right off hand, that I use it, is for my union brethren that will gladly pull an overweight trailer, risking their own livelihood, to help the company cut corners. These are also the same guys that tell me I'm stealing from the company, and helping it into bankruptcy, by charging them for every minute of work time, as per the contract rules. As a line driver, I'm expected to do things for free, yet I've never heard them ask a dockhand to punch out before unloading that last trailer for the day.
    No, I haven't made policies that make no sense, and waste money daily.
    That's management's job, and despite what's going on in the real world, labor should never have to pay for management's mistakes.

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    Default Re: Misunderstood Union Lingo

    Quote Originally Posted by Pullin3 View Post
    I like your definition better.
    Scab is a very versatile term that can be used in a wide number of applications, much like the F-bomb.
    One way, right off hand, that I use it, is for my union brethren that will gladly pull an overweight trailer, risking their own livelihood, to help the company cut corners. These are also the same guys that tell me I'm stealing from the company, and helping it into bankruptcy, by charging them for every minute of work time, as per the contract rules. As a line driver, I'm expected to do things for free, yet I've never heard them ask a dockhand to punch out before unloading that last trailer for the day.
    No, I haven't made policies that make no sense, and waste money daily.
    That's management's job, and despite what's going on in the real world, labor should never have to pay for management's mistakes.
    What you describe here is what we always called "card carrying scabs".

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    That's pretty interesting... 222lifer!

    I put this up back in December while searching for the origination:

    Jack London "The Scab"

    I found it a fascinating read...

    I hope You don't mind My including it here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stldude44 View Post
    What you describe here is what we always called "card carrying scabs".
    10-roger

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikDiesel View Post
    That's pretty interesting... 222lifer!

    I put this up back in December while searching for the origination:

    Jack London "The Scab"

    I found it a fascinating read...

    I hope You don't mind My including it here!
    Not at all. I found that one too. It is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stldude44 View Post
    What you describe here is what we always called "card carrying scabs".
    But what about the infestation of those that do not pay dues and work for union companies in the right to work for less states? Should they be called shirt tailers? Wannabee's? Freeloaders?

    What about those thankless individuals proclaiming to be union employees past and present, who speak out publicly regarding union matters quoting falsehoods, lies, and half truths regarding unions and their members in an effort to damage the reputation of unions in general? Should they be called haters? Liars? Propaganda spreaders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    But what about the infestation of those that do not pay dues and work for union companies in the right to work for less states? Should they be called shirt tailers? Wannabee's? Freeloaders?

    What about those thankless individuals proclaiming to be union employees past and present, who speak out publicly regarding union matters quoting falsehoods, lies, and half truths regarding unions and their members in an effort to damage the reputation of unions in general? Should they be called haters? Liars? Propaganda spreaders?
    It surely doesn't say much about their character, those who hate the union and then turn ariund and bash it as they enjoy all the benefits. It desn't leave much for the trust factor of them either.

    Are there alot of people wo don't actually join a union shop in the right-to-work states...I'm not aware of what goes on in a state where they do that. Ya know I saw something that Bush passed which sort of makes it federal in some ways the right-to work thing. Are there problems in the shops where the people refuse to join or is it just ok and considered normal? I've argued with people over this. They think it should be Ok for them to negotiate their own wages in a union shop. They think it's immorral for a union to hold the power and not let them have their right to negotiate their own wage. they feel their rights are being violated. I told them it would be OK with me if you were allowed to negotiate your own wage anywhere as long as I could go by union rules anywhere. Of course for that to be fair all jobs would have to go by union rules for any card carrying member who walks through the door and gets hired and there'd have to be laws against discriminating against the hiring of union members. And the shop would have to follow seniority rules for them unionmmembers no matter where they get hired. They didn't seem to like the idea that maybe I would also like to be represented in a non-union shop if they could act like a non-union in a union shop. Only their rights seem to matter if they don't feel it fair. It's only their right to work that really matters in a right to work state. Not the union members right, say,to be represented by a union, in a non-union shop. right?

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    I'm all for the free loaders to be free as long as they receive nothing from the union. They go into the office as individuals and beg for theie wages and benefits. Lets have the Union contract worker status and the free loader status. The free-loader goes by the company rules, we go by the union rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steward2008 View Post
    I'm all for the free loaders to be free as long as they receive nothing from the union. They go into the office as individuals and beg for theie wages and benefits. Lets have the Union contract worker status and the free loader status. The free-loader goes by the company rules, we go by the union rules.
    Yeah,all over the country and all jobs. They have a "right-to-work" scabby non-union. And we and anybody who cares to join has the right-to-work for union negotiated contracts. We'd probably have the majority of workers unionized in a fairly short amount of time as long as it's fair and we all have a right to join or not wherever...not just in a majority voted-in union employer.
    Otherwise it just seems to me to be a biased law in favor of the scabs. A union busting tool. encouraging freeloaders.

 

 
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