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    Default Re: The-War-On-Workers-Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    It doesn't matter how profitable they are. It's the 9% they look at. Workers up the yin yang available at 1/2 the price if needed
    If that is the case beanie, explain why our numbers were dropping at a record pace during good economic times.

    You don't think it's the percentage of us that are left that they are looking at.

    Now it's everyone and their dog that wants to bail on their obligations to the pensions. Stable funds, funds in trouble, it does not matter. They saw an opening and they are coming for the knockout punch.

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    Default Re: The-War-On-Workers-Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    If that is the case beanie, explain why our numbers were dropping at a record pace during good economic times.
    FedEx, Conway, Estes, A.Duie Pyle..ya think?

    You don't think it's the percentage of us that are left that they are looking at.
    Two million teamsters out there..not too shabby. Thank Hoffa for what is left in freight. Even Hoffa understands the basic law of 'supply and demand' the more workers unemployed the more it tends to push wages down.
    Now it's everyone and their dog that wants to bail on their obligations to the pensions. Stable funds, funds in trouble, it does not matter. They saw an opening and they are coming for the knockout punch.
    Ya, you're right, cities, states, large profitable corps, telecom companies. It's all about the 9%
    "operation 9%"

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    Default Re: The-War-On-Workers-Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    It doesn't matter how profitable they are. It's the 9% they look at. Workers up the yin yang available at 1/2 the price if needed
    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    FedEx, Conway, Estes, A.Duie Pyle..ya think?
    I thought you said it didn't matter how profitable they are? It is the 9% they look at? We didn't have 9% unemployed at the time. We had companies making money hand over fist during low unemployment times yet they came to the workers with their hands out. We are talking about the national pipeline and companies that have more money than you could possibly imagine.

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Two million teamsters out there..not too shabby. Thank Hoffa for what is left in freight. Even Hoffa understands the basic law of 'supply and demand' the more workers unemployed the more it tends to push wages down.
    2 million? Did we gain a grundle of members I was not aware of? It ain't just the wages beanie. It is the pensions they are after. Private pensions.

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Ya, you're right, cities, states, large profitable corps, telecom companies. It's all about the 9%
    What this is about is an attack on our union workforce. Those same Unions you wanted to bust in the public sector? Remember? Many have said they will go after the public first and then the private? Now you are seeing it at a level I never thought would be included until the very end of the attacks. The oil companies. The gas companies. Going right for the jugular.

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    Default Re: The-War-On-Workers-Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by 222lifer View Post
    I thought you said it didn't matter how profitable they are? It is the 9% they look at? We didn't have 9% unemployed at the time. We had companies making money hand over fist during low unemployment times yet they came to the workers with their hands out. We are talking about the national pipeline and companies that have more money than you could possibly imagine.
    Let me rephrase it for you: large, immensely profitable, truly uncaring capitalistic corporations will attempt to cut you down in high unemployment times



    What this is about is an attack on our union workforce. Those same Unions you wanted to bust in the public sector? Remember? Many have said they will go after the public first and then the private? Now you are seeing it at a level I never thought would be included until the very end of the attacks. The oil companies. The gas companies. Going right for the jugular.
    If it were not for the hard times YRC has fallen on the attack would have been put down as ABF teamsters put it down. The pension worked out fine for 10's of thousands of retired teamsters for decades. Years of selfish abuse has caught up to the public union hierarchy, not to mention those who couldn't care less about the fiscal mess it created



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    Default Re: The-War-On-Workers-Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Let me rephrase it for you: large, immensely profitable, truly uncaring capitalistic corporations will attempt to cut you down in high unemployment times
    Let me rephrase it for you beanie. They attacked us in good times and bad. More so in the last couple of decades. Have you ever spent any time at all with the labor movement? There has been a steady and growing trend in Union busting for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    If it were not for the hard times YRC has fallen on the attack would have been put down as ABF teamsters put it down. The pension worked out fine for 10's of thousands of retired teamsters for decades. Years of selfish abuse has caught up to the public union hierarchy, not to mention those who couldn't care less about the fiscal mess it created.
    I used to think it was just another blunder by Zollars and company. Not any more. Buy up every other union carrier and take a giant dump on them was the ploy. They were just waiting to make their move. The time was right and now these sorry ******** got just what they wanted. They effectively got out of their obligations to the pensions. There is no way the pensions are going to sue for the delinquency. That would put wonderful YRC over the edge. They gave them the boot and we are all left holding the bag. IMO, YRC will never enter the pension funds again.

    Poor ABF. First a little slight of hand with the NMFA and now the only power under that freight contract is left with the shrewd negotiating skills of Hoffa/Hall and will be thrown to the wolves....Those wolves being UPS and the language those employees have been battling since it was signed. This battle will be bloody. You think 2013 was just a coincidence? Think again.

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