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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    Ever try to live in the 5 boro's on 47K ? Benefits aside, which are usually inflated by the so-called source, don't pay for rent, utilities, food, etc.
    Doesn't sound like a livable wage to me to live anywhere close to the NYC metro area. Perhaps the management could clean up after themselves in those large mega office complexes to save some money.
    Imagine, cleaning the toilet and taking out the trash .... imagine ?

    $22.65 an hour, benefits, plus 39 paid days off a year ain't too shabby to take out the trash and buff the floors. These people want a home. If any thing we learned from the meltdown every working person will not have one, especially in Manhattan where only millionaires could afford a house, condo or apartment. Driving thru NYC on the Cross Bronx (I-95) is nothing but hi-rise tenement housing. Awesome!! Yankee Stadium in the Bronx will cost a family of 4 over $300.00 to see a Yankee game..parking, tickets and eat. If they walk the walk they have a lot to lose



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    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post

    $22.65 an hour, benefits, plus 39 paid days off a year ain't too shabby to take out the trash and buff the floors. These people want a home. If any thing we learned from the meltdown every working person will not have one, especially in Manhattan where only millionaires could afford a house, condo or apartment. Driving thru NYC on the Cross Bronx (I-95) is nothing but hi-rise tenement housing. Awesome!! Yankee Stadium in the Bronx will cost a family of 4 over $300.00 to see a Yankee game..parking, tickets and eat. If they walk the walk they have a lot to lose


    As usual, a tap dance around what was said. Can a family support themselves on that wage in the NYC metro area ? What does the benefits have to do with it ?
    I think everyone wants a home, but at those wages you can hardly afford to rent and feed your family in NYC.
    As for the tenement housing you think you saw, I would say many respectable people call those places home. Co-op city is one of the largest with it's own police force. Not everyone who lives in rental housing in the metro area lives in a tenement, as you imply.
    The Yankees .... really, I can't afford to see a Yankees game either. I'll watch it on TV, but the crowds seem to show otherwise that a lot of people do go and watch the game live.

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    I fail to see what the price of Yankee tickets has to do with the price of housing?
    If you can't pay the rent, then DON'T GO to the game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by x475 View Post
    I fail to see what the price of Yankee tickets has to do with the price of housing?
    If you can't pay the rent, then DON'T GO to the game!
    I agree. As usual, the statement made in response to my question was an end run and had nothing to do with a living wage in the NYC metro area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fxstc07 View Post
    As usual, a tap dance around what was said. Can a family support themselves on that wage in the NYC metro area ? What does the benefits have to do with it ?
    I think everyone wants a home, but at those wages you can hardly afford to rent and feed your family in NYC.
    As for the tenement housing you think you saw, I would say many respectable people call those places home. Co-op city is one of the largest with it's own police force. Not everyone who lives in rental housing in the metro area lives in a tenement, as you imply.
    The Yankees .... really, I can't afford to see a Yankees game either. I'll watch it on TV, but the crowds seem to show otherwise that a lot of people do go and watch the game live.
    Quote Originally Posted by x475 View Post
    I fail to see what the price of Yankee tickets has to do with the price of housing?
    If you can't pay the rent, then DON'T GO to the game!


    Such a strike would cripple thousands of Bronx households, with workers foregoing pay.
    Ivan Almendarez, 36, who lives near Yankee Stadium and works in a New York University building, is the sole provider for a wife with cancer and three children.
    "The workers, including me, are ready to walk out, even though I have medical bills to pay," said the Nicaraguan immigrant.
    He was still there nine years later when American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into 1 WTC.

    Almendarez rushed out of the building, stopping to help a maintenance worker burned by the blast. He later walked home to Harlem and collapsed with two herniated disks. He was unable to perform manual labor for years.
    All you have to do is connect a couple dots to understand Mr Ivan Almendarez, like most of his co-workers work in Manhattan but live in the Bronx, Harlem what-ever. Ivan Almendarez, lives near Yankees Stadium..if he can't afford to see a Yankee game with the family he ain't never gonna own a home in in the city if he made $35.00 an hour.
    The average 32BJ office building worker makes $47,000 per year, $77,000 including benefits, and is allowed 39 paid days off annually.
    If these people think they should make enough to buy a home in the city cleaning offices then it's time to walk.



    Read more: Manhattan office building cleaners’ unionÂ*threatensÂ*strike; 4,000 Bronx workers would be affectedÂ* - NY Daily News

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    You are right , Mr. Almendarez will most likely never own a home in NYC , where the median home price is $475,000.
    Are you suggesting that because he may never own a home, he, and others like him should Not ask for wage increases, but roll over and take the cuts?

    I must be a poor dot connector , but I've bought several homes and never yet
    had a loan officer question my ablilty to attend a sporting event.









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    Quote Originally Posted by x475 View Post
    You are right , Mr. Almendarez will most likely never own a home in NYC , where the median home price is $475,000.
    Are you suggesting that because he may never own a home, he, and others like him should Not ask for wage increases, but roll over and take the cuts?

    I must be a poor dot connector , but I've bought several homes and never yet
    had a loan officer question my ablilty to attend a sporting event.
    New York City Home Prices | Department of Numbers

    NYC is the union capital of the world. They'll figure something out. A 2% raise is like a home run in the stadium but they'll strike for more

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