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    Default Securing haz mat.............

    The driver is 100% responsible to secure haz mat in his trailer. If it can't be secured it isn't put on the truck.

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    Default Re: Securing haz mat.............

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster2008 View Post
    The driver is 100% responsible to secure haz mat in his trailer. If it can't be secured it isn't put on the truck.
    One loose drum of paint that is flammable liquid, and you are totally empty. What would you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster View Post
    One loose drum of paint that is flammable liquid, and you are totally empty. What would you do?
    It has to be tied to the wall of the trailer. The DOT is starting to give out tickets for "any" unsecured HAZ MAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster2008 View Post
    It has to be tied to the wall of the trailer. The DOT is starting to give out tickets for "any" unsecured HAZ MAT.
    Is this what you would do? If you have no way to tie it to the wall, what would you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster View Post
    Is this what you would do? If you have no way to tie it to the wall, what would you do?
    Then it must be strapped to a pallet and load locked. Other wise you will get a ticket for unsecured haz mat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster2008 View Post
    Then it must be strapped to a pallet and load locked. Other wise you will get a ticket for unsecured haz mat.
    So you would not pick it up if you could not strap it to the wall?

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    Default Re: Securing haz mat.............

    There's a simple answer to all Haz-Mat (and for that matter; all situational ) concerns...

    If there is any question to the safety and security of self, public and property...

    Then, the burden of responsibility for making all judgmental calls lies with Your immediate supervisory personnel!

    Your job is to explain the situation at hand, to the best of Your ability... then, allow them to decide the next course of action (period)

    How long We been doing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikDiesel View Post
    There's a simple answer to all Haz-Mat (and for that matter; all situational ) concerns...

    If there is any question to the safety and security of self, public and property...

    Then, the burden of responsibility for making all judgmental calls lies with Your immediate supervisory personnel!

    Your job is to explain the situation at hand, to the best of Your ability... then, allow them to decide the next course of action (period)

    How long We been doing this?
    What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Teamster2008 said no hauling unsecured hazmat per DOT. He also said it is the total responsibility of the driver. I asked him what he would do in the example above in post #2. Pick it up or refuse to pick it up if he could not secure it.

    His statement, and my question would not be a judgmental call, it is very clear. Why would you call your immediate supervisor and ask him if you can break the law or break the law if he told you to?

    How long We been doing this?

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    We had a discussion about this very thing at my terminal. A driver was ticketed for unsecured HAZ mat. In the meeting some drivers said that the dock workers are responsible to secure the haz mat. Wrong! The law puts the burden on the driver. The company can have a policy that the dock workers must secure the hax mat, but the law does not hold them accountable.

    What I understand is that haz mat must be secured from movement. So if you can't keep the haz mat from shifting and moving, don't put it on your truck. The company supplies , straps, bungy cords, ropes and load bars to secure freight. Use them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster View Post
    What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Teamster2008 said no hauling unsecured hazmat per DOT. He also said it is the total responsibility of the driver. I asked him what he would do in the example above in post #2.
    Pick it up or refuse to pick it up if he could not secure it.
    His statement, and my question would not be a judgmental call, it is very clear. Why would you call your immediate supervisor and ask him if you can break the law or break the law if he told you to?

    How long We been doing this?
    Refuse or not Refuse, based on the circumstances at hand...

    That sounds like a Judgment Call to Me!

    Does the driver just refuse and leave...

    Or do drivers typically, run situational concerns by their immediate supervisory personnel?

    In this particular situation...

    If the driver just refused the freight and left...

    What’s to stop the customer from calling and then and only then expressing their willingness of exploring all options for of allowing the driver to of picked up the freight?

    If this happens... what is going to be the immediate reaction?

    "Why didn't You call"

    Final authority does lie with the driver...

    But, the protocol is in place and usually understood, before a driver places him or herself into a vulnerable position of making decisions beyond that, that is within their authority for doing so...

 

 
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