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    Default UPS-YOUR PIG IS HERE It arrived by LOOPY railroad management

    A generation ago, railroad clerks used four words — “your pig is here” — to inform truckers that an intermodal trailer shipment had arrived and was ready for pickup. Yes, and things have not changed. Now UPS has a freight division ran by previous railroad people who called themselves Overnite Transportation. UPS hopes that the light at the endless debt tunnel and poor operation ratio, of its’ UPS Freight division, is the light at the end of that tunnel and not another train on their rigid track headed for a very large wreck.

    Overnite Transportation, who had little concern about operating in the black, with a big railroad, Union Pacific, behind them and less knowledge about a dynamic LTL relay trucking operation, was chugging down their subsidized tracks. Nonetheless, UPS Corporation bought Overnite Transportation hoping to catch up with the FedEx Corporation and join the fray of the LTL business. “United Parcel Services, Inc. (UPS) has reached a definitive agreement to acquire LTL carrier Overnite Transportation Co. for a cash transaction of $1.25 billion—which represents a 46% premium.” [1]

    Many reports, from analysis’s and experienced employees, after purchase and today are that UPS paid excessively too much money for Overnite. The equipment was in poor condition and the management in even worse condition. UPS hand its’ hands full now and now needed to change a railroad minded operation into a dynamic LTL operation. All people are resistant to change, Overnite people still are entrenched in a ‘choo-choo’ mentality. Their line operations are ran by “transportation engineers which sounds like rail road engineers”. Did they buy a pig in a poke?

    UPS placed a figurehead at the train engine controls of this new division who had little experience in the LTL business. He did have some period of initial tutelage in the ‘Overnite pen’ for a period of two years or more and exposed to ‘their’ LOOP-Y [2] business plan. The UPS figurehead came from their package car division and knew little about the LTL business. Package cars are not freight cars and not even interstate transportation trailers. Freight is freight and package is packages are the facts. UPS in arrogance fails to understand the basics that even Fred Smith of FedEx understands. Buy a good company at the top of their game-Viking Freight System and American Freightways-and let those dynamic people run the division. Keep the TL and LTL business off the railroad for customers’ service. Run it like the pony express in many ways.

    UPS is arrogant enough to think that they could change the culture of Overnite and put an apprentice engineer in charge of an already failing transportation company. Some years ago, Viking Freight System attempted to go nationally, with the purchase of many smaller companies. Vikings’ culture and business plan was mentality discarded by many of those smaller companies. Because of the recalcitrant companies, they almost went bankrupt. Vikings’ savior was retraction to its’ original regional carrier size and their core base employees concerted efforts to save the company.

    After some $500 million in additional costs, added to the purchase price of $1.25 billion [3] , and a reported total ceiling of another $500 million limit, suggested by the UPS corporation and threats to employees of a ‘national closure of UPS Freight’ for filling grievances, upholding their current union contract and complaints with the National Labor Relations Board-UPS is worried. Threats from management and finger pointing abound, directed at the Teamster Union and members, for a poor old Overnite business plan executed by rigid people. Rigidity and arrogance are mental illness. Derailment issues abound and are just not the threats of closure that is a violation of ‘The National Labor Relations Act’. The arrogant UPS Corporation has removed the pig from the poke, painted it brown, applied a UPS logo on it and attempted the impossible-trying to make it fly. The ‘transportation engineers’ related to ‘Casey Jones’, of UPS Freight, should keep to the rails and off the highways of expeditious LTL transportation management.

    A main concern of the Teamster Union, inside the relationship of UPS Freight, is that of subcontracting work to outside companies-a clear violation of the current contract. It has been suggested to blazes with the contract and with keeping their word-UPS shows their unbridled dishonesty and their media machine still puffs out a steady steam stream good to many stockholders and public. What can Brown do to you comes to the forefront once steam screen and the paint wear off the pig? The company and the union are in no hurry to negotiate the yearlong grieved deadlocked ‘subcontracting’ violation. Push has come to shove and there may be a negotiated settlement of the issue and if not an arbitration this August. Watch out for the UPS stock to rise or fall on the storm of self inflicted stupidity and arrogance of UPS management. If pigs could fly-this one will come home to roost.

    UPS bought an expensive overpriced Overnite ticket to lunch and came late only to find FedEx Freight [Viking Freight and American Freightways] eating their lunch hearing cheering resounds of ‘your pig has arrived and it does not fly’. It is not our fault, retorted shouts from UPS Freight management attendees; it is the fault and responsibility of the Union and workers.

    UPS still paid the bill for the meal and continued headlong, full speed ahead, down the tunnel railroad tracts toward what light.


    J. William Watson
    Logistics-Real Estate-Insurance Consultant

    [1.] UPS to buy Overnite
    [2.] LOOP-Y: Latent Overnite Operational Psychosis
    [3.] UPS to buy Overnite

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    Default Re: UPS-YOUR PIG IS HERE It arrived by LOOPY railroad management

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster959/533 View Post
    A generation ago, railroad clerks used four words — “your pig is here” — to inform truckers that an intermodal trailer shipment had arrived and was ready for pickup. Yes, and things have not changed. Now UPS has a freight division ran by previous railroad people who called themselves Overnite Transportation. UPS hopes that the light at the endless debt tunnel and poor operation ratio, of its’ UPS Freight division, is the light at the end of that tunnel and not another train on their rigid track headed for a very large wreck.

    Overnite Transportation, who had little concern about operating in the black, with a big railroad, Union Pacific, behind them and less knowledge about a dynamic LTL relay trucking operation, was chugging down their subsidized tracks. Nonetheless, UPS Corporation bought Overnite Transportation hoping to catch up with the FedEx Corporation and join the fray of the LTL business. “United Parcel Services, Inc. (UPS) has reached a definitive agreement to acquire LTL carrier Overnite Transportation Co. for a cash transaction of $1.25 billion—which represents a 46% premium.” [1]

    Many reports, from analysis’s and experienced employees, after purchase and today are that UPS paid excessively too much money for Overnite. The equipment was in poor condition and the management in even worse condition. UPS hand its’ hands full now and now needed to change a railroad minded operation into a dynamic LTL operation. All people are resistant to change, Overnite people still are entrenched in a ‘choo-choo’ mentality. Their line operations are ran by “transportation engineers which sounds like rail road engineers”. Did they buy a pig in a poke?

    UPS placed a figurehead at the train engine controls of this new division who had little experience in the LTL business. He did have some period of initial tutelage in the ‘Overnite pen’ for a period of two years or more and exposed to ‘their’ LOOP-Y [2] business plan. The UPS figurehead came from their package car division and knew little about the LTL business. Package cars are not freight cars and not even interstate transportation trailers. Freight is freight and package is packages are the facts. UPS in arrogance fails to understand the basics that even Fred Smith of FedEx understands. Buy a good company at the top of their game-Viking Freight System and American Freightways-and let those dynamic people run the division. Keep the TL and LTL business off the railroad for customers’ service. Run it like the pony express in many ways.

    UPS is arrogant enough to think that they could change the culture of Overnite and put an apprentice engineer in charge of an already failing transportation company. Some years ago, Viking Freight System attempted to go nationally, with the purchase of many smaller companies. Vikings’ culture and business plan was mentality discarded by many of those smaller companies. Because of the recalcitrant companies, they almost went bankrupt. Vikings’ savior was retraction to its’ original regional carrier size and their core base employees concerted efforts to save the company.

    After some $500 million in additional costs, added to the purchase price of $1.25 billion [3] , and a reported total ceiling of another $500 million limit, suggested by the UPS corporation and threats to employees of a ‘national closure of UPS Freight’ for filling grievances, upholding their current union contract and complaints with the National Labor Relations Board-UPS is worried. Threats from management and finger pointing abound, directed at the Teamster Union and members, for a poor old Overnite business plan executed by rigid people. Rigidity and arrogance are mental illness. Derailment issues abound and are just not the threats of closure that is a violation of ‘The National Labor Relations Act’. The arrogant UPS Corporation has removed the pig from the poke, painted it brown, applied a UPS logo on it and attempted the impossible-trying to make it fly. The ‘transportation engineers’ related to ‘Casey Jones’, of UPS Freight, should keep to the rails and off the highways of expeditious LTL transportation management.

    A main concern of the Teamster Union, inside the relationship of UPS Freight, is that of subcontracting work to outside companies-a clear violation of the current contract. It has been suggested to blazes with the contract and with keeping their word-UPS shows their unbridled dishonesty and their media machine still puffs out a steady steam stream good to many stockholders and public. What can Brown do to you comes to the forefront once steam screen and the paint wear off the pig? The company and the union are in no hurry to negotiate the yearlong grieved deadlocked ‘subcontracting’ violation. Push has come to shove and there may be a negotiated settlement of the issue and if not an arbitration this August. Watch out for the UPS stock to rise or fall on the storm of self inflicted stupidity and arrogance of UPS management. If pigs could fly-this one will come home to roost.

    UPS bought an expensive overpriced Overnite ticket to lunch and came late only to find FedEx Freight [Viking Freight and American Freightways] eating their lunch hearing cheering resounds of ‘your pig has arrived and it does not fly’. It is not our fault, retorted shouts from UPS Freight management attendees; it is the fault and responsibility of the Union and workers.

    UPS still paid the bill for the meal and continued headlong, full speed ahead, down the tunnel railroad tracts toward what light.


    J. William Watson
    Logistics-Real Estate-Insurance Consultant

    [1.] UPS to buy Overnite
    [2.] LOOP-Y: Latent Overnite Operational Psychosis
    [3.] UPS to buy Overnite
    Another idiot. First thing, Fedex freight is losing money! Second the UPS guys are a lot smarter than the idiot who wrote this article. They were able to withdraw from the CSPF. The transition from non union to union is never going to be smooth, but things are going better. UPS is not losing money, like fedex and conway. They are letting these to companies play possum. UPS freight exists to help UPS serve its core customers with an option they didn't have before.

    I wonder how much Fredex paid this douche bag to write this garbage?

    Here are the facts: fedex and conway, tonnage and volume up, profits way down. They haul it for free or a lose. Why? they are trying to drive YRC out of business. UPS is not going to play that game. They are happy to let the competition destroy itself, while they stay profitable.
    Last edited by Teamster2008; 06-13-2010 at 05:42 PM.

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    Default Re: UPS-YOUR PIG IS HERE It arrived by LOOPY railroad management

    Good opinions here.
    If USF hadn't been so greedy, they and UPS would be flying high under UPS ownership.
    Word is that the original UPS offer was more than what they eventually agreed to by the evil company destroying YRC.

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    Default Re: UPS-YOUR PIG IS HERE It arrived by LOOPY railroad management

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster959/533 View Post
    A generation ago, railroad clerks used four words — “your pig is here” — to inform truckers that an intermodal trailer shipment had arrived and was ready for pickup. Yes, and things have not changed. Now UPS has a freight division ran by previous railroad people who called themselves Overnite Transportation. UPS hopes that the light at the endless debt tunnel and poor operation ratio, of its’ UPS Freight division, is the light at the end of that tunnel and not another train on their rigid track headed for a very large wreck.

    Overnite Transportation, who had little concern about operating in the black, with a big railroad, Union Pacific, behind them and less knowledge about a dynamic LTL relay trucking operation, was chugging down their subsidized tracks. Nonetheless, UPS Corporation bought Overnite Transportation hoping to catch up with the FedEx Corporation and join the fray of the LTL business. “United Parcel Services, Inc. (UPS) has reached a definitive agreement to acquire LTL carrier Overnite Transportation Co. for a cash transaction of $1.25 billion—which represents a 46% premium.” [1]

    Many reports, from analysis’s and experienced employees, after purchase and today are that UPS paid excessively too much money for Overnite. The equipment was in poor condition and the management in even worse condition. UPS hand its’ hands full now and now needed to change a railroad minded operation into a dynamic LTL operation. All people are resistant to change, Overnite people still are entrenched in a ‘choo-choo’ mentality. Their line operations are ran by “transportation engineers which sounds like rail road engineers”. Did they buy a pig in a poke?

    UPS placed a figurehead at the train engine controls of this new division who had little experience in the LTL business. He did have some period of initial tutelage in the ‘Overnite pen’ for a period of two years or more and exposed to ‘their’ LOOP-Y [2] business plan. The UPS figurehead came from their package car division and knew little about the LTL business. Package cars are not freight cars and not even interstate transportation trailers. Freight is freight and package is packages are the facts. UPS in arrogance fails to understand the basics that even Fred Smith of FedEx understands. Buy a good company at the top of their game-Viking Freight System and American Freightways-and let those dynamic people run the division. Keep the TL and LTL business off the railroad for customers’ service. Run it like the pony express in many ways.

    UPS is arrogant enough to think that they could change the culture of Overnite and put an apprentice engineer in charge of an already failing transportation company. Some years ago, Viking Freight System attempted to go nationally, with the purchase of many smaller companies. Vikings’ culture and business plan was mentality discarded by many of those smaller companies. Because of the recalcitrant companies, they almost went bankrupt. Vikings’ savior was retraction to its’ original regional carrier size and their core base employees concerted efforts to save the company.

    After some $500 million in additional costs, added to the purchase price of $1.25 billion [3] , and a reported total ceiling of another $500 million limit, suggested by the UPS corporation and threats to employees of a ‘national closure of UPS Freight’ for filling grievances, upholding their current union contract and complaints with the National Labor Relations Board-UPS is worried. Threats from management and finger pointing abound, directed at the Teamster Union and members, for a poor old Overnite business plan executed by rigid people. Rigidity and arrogance are mental illness. Derailment issues abound and are just not the threats of closure that is a violation of ‘The National Labor Relations Act’. The arrogant UPS Corporation has removed the pig from the poke, painted it brown, applied a UPS logo on it and attempted the impossible-trying to make it fly. The ‘transportation engineers’ related to ‘Casey Jones’, of UPS Freight, should keep to the rails and off the highways of expeditious LTL transportation management.

    A main concern of the Teamster Union, inside the relationship of UPS Freight, is that of subcontracting work to outside companies-a clear violation of the current contract. It has been suggested to blazes with the contract and with keeping their word-UPS shows their unbridled dishonesty and their media machine still puffs out a steady steam stream good to many stockholders and public. What can Brown do to you comes to the forefront once steam screen and the paint wear off the pig? The company and the union are in no hurry to negotiate the yearlong grieved deadlocked ‘subcontracting’ violation. Push has come to shove and there may be a negotiated settlement of the issue and if not an arbitration this August. Watch out for the UPS stock to rise or fall on the storm of self inflicted stupidity and arrogance of UPS management. If pigs could fly-this one will come home to roost.

    UPS bought an expensive overpriced Overnite ticket to lunch and came late only to find FedEx Freight [Viking Freight and American Freightways] eating their lunch hearing cheering resounds of ‘your pig has arrived and it does not fly’. It is not our fault, retorted shouts from UPS Freight management attendees; it is the fault and responsibility of the Union and workers.

    UPS still paid the bill for the meal and continued headlong, full speed ahead, down the tunnel railroad tracts toward what light.


    J. William Watson
    Logistics-Real Estate-Insurance Consultant

    [1.] UPS to buy Overnite
    [2.] LOOP-Y: Latent Overnite Operational Psychosis
    [3.] UPS to buy Overnite
    WOW!!! One thing I know for sure is that Fred Smith is a union hating a...hole! And Overnite was a sucessful freight company around for many years before Union Pacific owned it.

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    Default Re: UPS-YOUR PIG IS HERE It arrived by LOOPY railroad management

    Quote Originally Posted by Teamster2008 View Post
    Another idiot. First thing, Fedex freight is losing money! Second the UPS guys are a lot smarter than the idiot who wrote this article. They were able to withdraw from the CSPF. The transition from non union to union is never going to be smooth, but things are going better. UPS is not losing money, like fedex and conway. They are letting these to companies play possum. UPS freight exists to help UPS serve its core customers with an option they didn't have before.

    I wonder how much Fredex paid this douche bag to write this garbage?

    Here are the facts: fedex and conway, tonnage and volume up, profits way down. They haul it for free or a lose. Why? they are trying to drive YRC out of business. UPS is not going to play that game. They are happy to let the competition destroy itself, while they stay profitable.
    OK I see a couple of your points

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    Default Re: UPS-YOUR PIG IS HERE It arrived by LOOPY railroad management

    Is there a link to a site where that letter came from? Could we have it?

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    With all of UPS's prowess throughout the world and the transportation industry, does anyone beleive that their accountants, lawyers and all their investment team thouroughly looked this aquisition over? OVNT certainly wasn't the best freight company available to buy at the time in lots of eyes but UPS must have seen something! Just my opinion BROTHERS!

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    All of these postings make sense BUT here's one that might give you pause.
    UPS is known as a technology savvy operation BUT except for the DIAD's city drivers use, there is very little technology in play at UPS Freight!

    They are still moving freight the old fashioned way! They bring it in from the city, combine into a general direction trailer, they rely on the customer declared weight instead of reweighing everything--regardless of what the daily operation memo says about reweighs.

    They dispatch this general direction trailer from an end of line terminal to a hub, cross dock it, sometimes damaging it or losing it to another trailer or just let it sit.
    They have to hand write the bills(laser tags or bar code readers who needs them?)
    Then the hub spits out the trailer either to linehaul drivers(barely), railroad(sometimes) or sub-contractor(mostly) hoping the trailer makes service to another end of line terminal which then makes the final delivery.

    Oh we do well most of the time but we can always do better. But when you question a manager about why something didn't work right or whatever you get the following answer.
    "WELL IT'S A PROCESS. YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND SINCE YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE BIG PICTURE!"

    I see the picture all right and it looks like Dorian Gray!. For those who don't know that, here's a link
    The Picture of Dorian Gray - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelplaterick View Post
    All of these postings make sense BUT here's one that might give you pause.
    UPS is known as a technology savvy operation BUT except for the DIAD's city drivers use, there is very little technology in play at UPS Freight!

    They are still moving freight the old fashioned way! They bring it in from the city, combine into a general direction trailer, they rely on the customer declared weight instead of reweighing everything--regardless of what the daily operation memo says about reweighs.

    They dispatch this general direction trailer from an end of line terminal to a hub, cross dock it, sometimes damaging it or losing it to another trailer or just let it sit.
    They have to hand write the bills(laser tags or bar code readers who needs them?)
    Then the hub spits out the trailer either to linehaul drivers(barely), railroad(sometimes) or sub-contractor(mostly) hoping the trailer makes service to another end of line terminal which then makes the final delivery.

    Oh we do well most of the time but we can always do better. But when you question a manager about why something didn't work right or whatever you get the following answer.
    "WELL IT'S A PROCESS. YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND SINCE YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE BIG PICTURE!"

    I see the picture all right and it looks like Dorian Gray!. For those who don't know that, here's a link
    The Picture of Dorian Gray - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    ...the court jester...Viking sheesh

 

 
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