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    Default Re: UPS and UPS Freight Supplemental Committees Continue Talks With Company

    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    I'm not even gonna post the last link somebody sent me about this stuff.....It sure doens't give one much faith.
    What needs to be done?
    I lost faith a long time ago,....

    Share it anyway,....
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    IMO we have no choice but to vote "Yes" IMO with what the company did last week was to "Strike Themselves" they have already did to themselves what we had plan to do to them.........they don't care...they only care about more money for their "Share Holders" they are "Scumbags" they could care less about us (Union Workers) and the non-union workers and IMO the customers.....We can not stand alone without Parcel.....they will hold out forever IMO.

    I know a lot of people are upset about the wages.....but remember how many companies today have a pension plan and am not talking 401K either.....that got increase and another thing......when you retire your health insurance will only cost you I believe single ($150 a month) husband and wife ($300 a month) how many companies have that and that is part of are wage you don't see....until the end?

    IMO the biggest part of the contract is the contractors use and the two tier wage system for new hires not to mention there starting pay, good luck finding drivers........also no change in how many employees can go on vacation per-week (management can do whatever they want) and they never address the language on if you get fire or quit, they don't have to pay you your vacation yep it's in there.....


    In all that is said and done we are the "Highest Paid Drivers" do I want more of course I do...the share holders want more and so do i......but unless Parcel walks with us I don't see it happing...maybe in another 5 years....let's live to fight another day...it could be worst.


    And yes UPS upper management are a bunch of "Scumbags" and UPS isn't the greatest place in the world to work......but is there any good places to work anymore? IMO they all suck...including were my wife works.
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    Default Re: UPS and UPS Freight Supplemental Committees Continue Talks With Company

    True enough,...

    We can only hope we can elect better leadership
    at every level and hope for the best.

    hoffa and the goon squad didn't have to force the contract on parcel,....

    If parcel and freight were standing together it would be a different story,...
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    I'll blame the goons in charge and continue to harbor resentment at paying
    their salary,..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye View Post
    True enough,...

    We can only hope we can elect better leadership
    at every level and hope for the best.

    hoffa and the goon squad didn't have to force the contract on parcel,....

    If parcel and freight were standing together it would be a different story,...
    '
    I'll blame the goons in charge and continue to harbor resentment at paying
    their salary,..
    Remember the first contract when Hall sent out that DVD stating that both are (USP Freight) and Parcels contract end at the same time July 31, I thought that are first contract sucked (ever on since too) but if we keep freight and parcel together improvements could be made in a hurry(this is are third and no real major improvements IMO).....

    Well Hoffa, Hall and Taylor "YOU BLEW IT" you had them dead to rights (UPS) but played right into there hands.... you didn't have to enforce the contract on Parcel, but did!.......Thats right new leadership is a must if IMO the teamsters want to be around for another 100 years....these guys are killing us IMO...

    Also IMO a B.A. who does his job and fights like hell is worth every penny, problem is, there isn't many of those around these days.

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    We need leadership and an organized group like Trumps Administration and Campaign group....A group willing to rock the boat so hard it just about turns upside down.
    We need it within the Unions and the politicians we pick...We cannot keep politicking to give everything we got to the government to give to scabs.....or they have no need for us and too soft a net to land in when companies let them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavenomore View Post
    We need leadership and an organized group like Trumps Administration and Campaign group....A group willing to rock the boat so hard it just about turns upside down.
    We need it within the Unions and the politicians we pick...We cannot keep politicking to give everything we got to the government to give to scabs.....or they have no need for us and too soft a net to land in when companies let them down.
    IMO leadership starts at the top....that means the President of the United States....and Trump is no "Union" IMO.....but Bernie is and you didn't vote for him did you or endorse him....FDR was for the most part a Union man....and if you have been following along you would have notice a couple of nice articles posted by Walleye, they were from the "The World Socialist Web Site" so who's got your back...IMO we are going down the road of "Pure Capitalism" and thats not good or perhaps "Fascism "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayheykid View Post
    IMO leadership starts at the top....that means the President of the United States....and Trump is no "Union" IMO.....but Bernie is and you didn't vote for him did you or endorse him....FDR was for the most part a Union man....and if you have been following along you would have notice a couple of nice articles posted by Walleye, they were from the "The World Socialist Web Site" so who's got your back...IMO we are going down the road of "Pure Capitalism" and thats not good or perhaps "Fascism "
    My point is rock the boat...shake it up, smash thru everybody in your way and get somewhere with it...Trump did that...Bernie did not. We need what I just said from people to change this union....going Bernie's route within the union will only goie all our stuff to the scabs and leave us nothing. Anyways carry on..you have a high stress weekend here.

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    Default Re: UPS and UPS Freight Supplemental Committees Continue Talks With Company

    IMO, UPS wanted out of the fiasco Central States Pension Fund. At the same time UPS was buying Overnite and Hoffa took the easy route into organizing the Overnite now UPSFreight group by allowing UPS out of the pension fund in return for a no contest in organizing the freight group. I’m also sure he then madd the deal with UPS that there would be little opposition in the future contracts involving UPS Parcel and Freight. As we all know Hoffa has not been a friend to any freight contracts involving any companies. Fortunately for Hoffa he used a loophole to force the contract on parcel and with the freight end he couldn’t find the loophole needed to enforce the contract onto the members.
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    Just had are vote......11 yes......12 no.....asked about are health insurance(Teamcare) they will not know until after the election, really.......and they still voted no, might be without health insurance for some I'll go on my wife's plan......cost a lot more....rumor has it that Parcel may use some of are equipment (Tractors) ask if we could picket them if they do....no answer it's up to the IBT (many of us feel we have been sold out and they do not have are back)(The Union) cause if they take are tractors and they say that they own us then IMO Parcel should be walking too.....we shell see.
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    Default Re: UPS and UPS Freight Supplemental Committees Continue Talks With Company

    Is parcel and the gypsies gonna use your dock too? They own that also don't they?

 

 
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