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    Default Re: Pat Buchanan--Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Churchill bombed more German civilians then US air strikes did. Drones kill civilians. It's what they do. It's called payback. It's the wack job truth
    You didn't answer the question, what is Churchill saying, what does he mean???? anyone???? has nothing to do with bombings....

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    Default Re: Pat Buchanan--Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War

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    You didn't answer the question, what is Churchill saying, what does he mean???? anyone???? has nothing to do with bombings....
    You're referring to "Germanys unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an own exchange system from which the world-finance couldnt profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig." - Winston Churchill ? as if Churchill butchered the wrong pig. No, Churchill bombed the pigs and all the civilians they could bomb as a payback to Nazi Luftwaffe bombings of England. Get it now?

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    Default Re: Pat Buchanan--Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War

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    You're referring to "Germanys unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an own exchange system from which the world-finance couldnt profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig." - Winston Churchill ? as if Churchill butchered the wrong pig. No, Churchill bombed the pigs and all the civilians they could bomb as a payback to Nazi Luftwaffe bombings of England. Get it now?
    No, Bean i think you don't get it, from what i see it's sure looks like churchill wanted war with German, just read some of these quotes, which were said before the war... see the year...yes the war was unnecessary,Buchanan was right..

    World War 2
    "We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." - Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)

    "Germany becomes too powerful. We have to crush it." - Winston Churchill (November 1936 speaking to US - General Robert E. Wood)


    Why did Churchill want war, it was for economic reasons.......


    "The war wasn’t only about abolishing fascism, but to conquer sales markets. We could have, if we had intended so, prevented this war from breaking out without doing one shot, but we didn’t want to."
    - Winston Churchill to Truman (Fultun, USA March 1946)

    "Germany’s unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an independent exchange system from which the world-finance couldn’t profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig."
    -Winston Churchill (The Second World War - Bern, 1960)

    You see Bean, Germany economy was thriving, Germany was back,not to mention it was going in the Socialist direction (sure Churchill didn't like that)40 hour work week, National Health Care, Free higher education... not to mention they threw out the western bankers(Rothschild)reasons for war right there, you see Germany was becoming the economic and financial Capital of Europe, perhaps the World, something that England was at the time and and had no plans of giving it up, but ended up giving it up anyway to the Americans. Was Hitler evil probably,but we have worked with evil people before? Saddam was are friend at one time, we put the Shah of Iran into power, Manuel Noriega (Panama) not to mention Stalin....it's all economics(Bankers) my friend...

    What did Churchill mean by saying "We butchered the wrong pig" IMO he is referring to the former USSR......

    You see we always have to demonize are enemies, so Hitler was evil, the Native Americans (Savage's) the Japs, even the Spanish were evil during the Spanish/American War, James Baker even admits it here....



    "We made a monster, a devil out of Hitler. Therefore we couldn’t disavow it after the war. After all, we mobilized the masses against the devil himself. So we were forced to play our part in this diabolic scenario after the war. In no way we could have pointed out to our people that the war only was an economic preventive measure."
    - US foreign minister James Baker (1992)

    And how many people know of this..."The Transfer Agreement"?

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/02/25/zioni...greement-1933/

    "Jewish organizations and their boot-licking Christian Zionists declared war against German people on March 24, 1933 – as they’re repeating similar sanctions against Iranian people. They called for ‘crippling boycott’ of German goods as part of blackmailing the new German government to help World Zionist movement to establish the Zionist entity in British mandate Palestine. As result of severe western economic sanctions, in August 1933 – the Hitler regime agreed with Chaim Arlosoroff of the World Zionist Organization to let tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate with their wealth to British occupied Arab Palestine. This agreement is known as the Haavara (Hebrew for “transfer”). The Agreement allowed 60,000 German Jews to imigrate to Palestine and settle on Arab land during 1933-1941.

    On this basis of their similar racist ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood, National Socialists and Jewish extremists (Zionists) worked together for what each group believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive collaboration."

    "“The economic relationship with Germany was indispensable in the creation of the State of Israel. Without Germany and the Nazis, there would have been no “aliyah” to the Holy Land,” says Black."

    And how many people know about this......

    Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans

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    Another Veteran, who will not be buying any of the Eisenhower Silver Dollars is Martin Brech of Mahopac, New York, a semi-retired professor of philosophy at Mercy College in Dobbs Ferry, NY. In 1945, Brech was an 18 year old Private First Class in Company C of the 14th Infantry, assigned as a guard and interpreter at the Eisenhower Death Camp at Andernach, along the Rhine River. He stated for SPOTLIGHT, February 12, 1990:

    "My protests (regarding treatment of the German DEF'S) were met with hostility or indifference, and when I threw our ample rations to them over the barbed wire. I was threatened, making it clear that it was our deliberate policy not to adequately feed them."

    "When they caught me throwing C- Rations over the fence, they threatened me with imprisonment. One Captain told me that he would shoot me if he saw me again tossing food to the Germans ... Some of the men were really only boys 13 years of age...Some of the prisoners were old men drafted by Hitler in his last ditch stand ... I understand that average weight of the prisoners at Andernach was 90 pounds...I have received threats ... Nevertheless, this...has liberated me, for I may now be heard when I relate the horrible atrocity I witnessed as a prison guard for one of 'Ike's death camps' along the Rhine." (Betty Lou Smith Hanson)"

    The reason for WWII goes all the way back to WWI, Germany did not start WWI but paid a heavy price for it, with the "Versailles Treaty" in which the Germans had no say, with the Versailles Treaty they broke up Europe and gave away parts of Germany, which Hitler wanted back, it said that the Polls were killing ethic Germans and Hitler wanted it back (the part they lost to Poland after WWI) the Polish said no,knowing that they had a agreement with France and English that if they go to war France and England will back them, Poland does not give the land back, keeps on killing ethic Germans, HItler invades , war is declared by France and England WWII starts.

    It is said that Hitler offered peace to England many times, Chamberlain was for it, Churchill was not, Churchill become the PM war continue's, if Hitler wanted war so bad with England why didn't he annihilate the English Army at Dunkirk, he had them dead to rights, but let them retreat back to England, act of kindness or a major blunder by Hitler?

    IMO war was coming to Europe, Eastern Europe, Germany was going to go to war against Russia, imagine no cold war, no Russian menace to deal with? Would Germany have become that menace? maybe we will never know.

    Was WWII Worth It? - by Pat Buchanan

    "True, U.S. and British troops liberated France, Holland, and Belgium from Nazi occupation. But before Britain declared war on Germany, France, Holland, and Belgium did not need to be liberated. They were free. They were only invaded and occupied after Britain and France declared war on Germany – on behalf of Poland.

    When one considers the losses suffered by Britain and France – hundreds of thousands dead, destitution, bankruptcy, the end of the empires – was World War II worth it, considering that Poland and all the other nations east of the Elbe were lost anyway?"

    There Was No Need For World War II

    "The peace offer Hitler had in mind, if Britain would assume a neutral position, was such an astounding offer that Herbert Hoover, when he was told of Hitler's terms from Ambassador Kennedy, gasped: "Why didn't the British accept?" "Nothing but Churchill's bullheadedness," replied Kennedy.7 Kennedy's statement was enough to condemn Churchill as a war criminal."

    "Hans Kohn reviewed John Scott's Duel for Europe in the December 14, 1942 New Republic (799). He stated, "If Britain had wished to make peace with Ger many, she could have done it easily in 1939, in the summer of 1940, and again in the spring of 1941." It was not Hitler and Germany who could be described accurately as the war maniacs. The war maniacs were Roosevelt and Churchill and their backers, such as Bernard Baruch and Samuel Untermeyer.'


    Finely a quote by George Orwell, think of it when you read your history books, it's probably what they want you to know and think......

    "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
    Read more at George Orwell Quotes - BrainyQuote

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    Default Re: Pat Buchanan--Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War

    I think Fedexnuno mention something on this topic......learn the true history of why WWII......

    The Jewish Declaration Of War On Germany

    "In a similar vein, the Jewish newspaper Natscha Retsch wrote:

    The war against Germany will be waged by all Jewish communities, conferences, congresses... by every individual Jew. Thereby the war against Germany will ideologically enliven and promote our interests, which require that Germany be wholly destroyed."

    "This New York Daily News front page headline hailed the massive anti-German protest rally held in Madison Square Garden on March 27, 1933. Despite efforts by the German government to alleviate tensions and prevent the escalation of name-calling and threats by the international Jewish leadership, the rally was held as scheduled. Similar rallies and protest marches were also being held in other cities during the same time frame. The intensity of the Jewish campaign against Germany was such that the Hitler government vowed that if the campaign did not stop, there would be a one-day boycott in Germany of Jewish-owned stores. Despite this, the hate campaign continued, forcing Germany to take defensive measures that created a situation wherein the Jews of Germany became increasingly marginalized. The truth about the Jewish war on Germany has been suppressed by most histories of the period."

    "Why did the Germans begin rounding up the Jews and interning them in the concentration camps to begin with? Contrary to popular myth, the Jews remained "free" inside Germany - albeit subject to laws which did restrict certain of their privileges - prior to the outbreak of World War II.

    Yet, the other little-known fact is that just before the war began, the leadership of the world Jewish community formally declared war on Germany - above and beyond the ongoing six-year- long economic boycott launched by the worldwide Jewish community when the Nazi Party came to power in 1933.

    As a consequence of the formal declaration of war, the German authorities thus deemed Jews to be potential enemy agents.'

    "The primary difficulty with the Transfer Agreement (or even the idea of such an agreement) was that the English [!!!; Scriptorium] were demanding, as a condition of immigration, that each immigrant pay 1,000 pounds sterling upon arrival in Haifa or elsewhere. The difficulty was that such hard currency was nearly impossible to come by in a cash-strapped and radically inflationary Germany. This was the main idea behind the final Transfer Agreement. Laqueur writes:'

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    Default Re: Pat Buchanan--Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War

    Quote Originally Posted by bean View Post
    Churchill bombed more German civilians then US air strikes did. Drones kill civilians. It's what they do. It's called payback. It's the wack job truth
    How do you ''CONVERT'' Western Democracies into Police States? You attack innocents in Third World Countries and ''FEED'' off the pinprick efforts at Retaliation by small groups of Radicals.''PERFECT SCENARIO'' for both the Perpetrators of Islamic Terrorism and the Western Governments and Militaries who feed off the violence that they have ''INITIATED'' in attacks on ''CIVILIANS'' in small rural settings in Iraq,Syria,Afganistan,Pakistan,Yemen,Libya and a ''HOST'' of similar Third World Target States.

    No one will be 'ADDRESSING'' the fact that violence overseas ''ORCHESTRATED'' by America and it's ''ALLIES'' Produces violence at home.Yet,there are ''CONNECTIONS'' despite the fact many try to ''DENY'' it.People always keep asking why these ''SHOOTERS'' kill the ''INNOCENTS''?The US Military with their ''DRONES'' and ''BOMBS'' have ''KILLED'' more ''CIVILIANS'' than all the Terrorist attacks in this Country Combined,including 9/11.But these ''INNOCENTS'' overseas are called ''COLLATERAL DAMAGE''.

    The US is not and has not been at War anywhere in the World in the last 35 years.The US has been ''ROAMING''in Search of ''RESOURCES'',in Search of ''BUSINESS CONTRACTS'',in Search of ''LOOT''.Who and whatever has stood in it's Way it has attempted to ''OVERTHROW'',''SANCTION''or Outright ''MURDER''.This is not War.And ''WHY'' has the US been on such an ''IMPERIAL RAMPAGE''?Easy to understand,the ''NEVER ENDING NEED FOR EXPANDING MARKETS'' AND INCREASED PROFITS''.The US does not Fail because New Democracies don't ''BLOSSOM'' in it's Wake,the US has not Failed because ''CHAOS'' Ensues,Oh No.The Scenarios of ''CHAOS'' and ''DESTRUCTION'' are ''SUCCESS STORIES'' in the ''TWISTED'' Minds of those who ''CREATE''US Foreign Policy for Reasons most knowledgeable people are Familiar with.Let's take a wild guess,''MIC PROFITS,MINERAL WEALTH,OIL PIPELINES,GAS CONTRACTS,PETRO DOLLARS'' and 'NUMEROUS other ECONOMIC FACTORS that ''DEFINE'' the ''REALITY'' of ''WHY'' US Foreign Policy is as it is!!!!

    Study: U.S. regime has killed 20-30 million people since World War Two -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net

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