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Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism

Originally Posted by
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So,your whole ''ARGUMENT'' is ''JUST YOUR OPINION''..........You gotta do better than that Spanky.
Not ''ONE WORD'' about the ''CORRUPTION'' that ''DWELLS'',that ''FESTERS'',that ''LIVES'' in the ''HEART'' of ''CAPITALISM''.Tell me its all on the ''UP and ''UP''THE GAME IS RIGGED'' and ''THEY'' are taking no ''PRISONERS''.They're ''PLAYING'' you Spanky,just like They're ''PLAYING'' all of ''US''.Ah yes,They DANGLE THAT CARROT getting Americans to believe the America Dream is still ''ATTAINABLE''.Used to be that way,no more.
The Whole Economy needs to be ''REVAMPED''.Unless ''CAPITALISM'' is ''MODIFIED'' to include other ''STAKEHOLDERS''than ''CORPORATE SHAREHOLDERS'',Nothing Will Change.Tell me Spanky, ''WHO'' out there has the type of ''MACRO-ECONOMIC'' knowledge needed to ''REVAMP CAPITALISM''?
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Where there is big money and politics there is corruption, nothin will stop that. The whole system is corrupt and rigged? I don't think so but you will read an article now and a-gain about insider trading and ponzi schemes. They do the crime they do the time. The economy is plugging along despite the Dodd/Frank bill and Obama restrictions dragging it down.
johnny, big money usually wins out in the end. You're just an average schmuck who thinks the American dream is a home in Lodi, New Jersey and a baby. It don't get better, johnny
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Problem here is that you (Bean) and Strappy are the perfect example why the public school system sucks, nether of you can think for yourself, you say just what the 1% (WSJ, Fox News, or Rush) tell you what to say, Socialism works in those Northern Europe Counties and Bernie is proposing nothing more than what they have, Bernie is not a radical, his proposals are nothing new. Those people have a higher standard of living than we do....how do you explain that???
As for Capitalism, the (big) Government has always work for them, railroads got free land, in which Government troops ran off the native population, Government troops were bought in to settle strikes for the Capitalist Corporations pay for by the people, the Government put high tariffs of imports to protect corporate profits (not to protect jobs) like some will tell you. You see Capitalism is base of "Slavery and Genocide" no more slavery (cheap labor) and no more free land,(look at England and France today no more colonies, no more world power) so your so called Capitalist have moved your jobs to places where labor and land are cheap,( not to mention no labor unions) they don't care about you, get that out of your head, Socialism is about the people, and a "Democratic Socialism" is not about the State taking control of private corporations, let's remember it's Unions (Many would say a "Socialist Organization" especially a capitalist) that got us the 40 hour work week, payed vacations and company pay insurance, the Companies didn't give it to us by their free-will, why you two (Bean an Strappy) belong to a union is beyond me??
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We lost a lot of manufacturing due to bad policy's of the Obama administration who by the way are a socialist government.
Obama care is socialism, a terrible expensive failure and job killer. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the democrats should stay the hell out of my life, do the job they was put there for. Bernie if elected, which he won't would end manufacturing in this country as we knew it by taxing big business and Wall Street
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Originally Posted by
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We lost a lot of manufacturing due to bad policy's of the Obama administration who by the way are a socialist government.
We lost a lot of manufacturing to bad trade agreements before the Obama administration. We will continue to lose long after he leaves office. Language in these agreements allows for it. The Obama administration has made billions for the elite. Give credit where credit is due.
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Originally Posted by
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We lost a lot of manufacturing due to bad policy's of the Obama administration who by the way are a socialist government.
Obama care is socialism, a terrible expensive failure and job killer. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the democrats should stay the hell out of my life, do the job they was put there for. Bernie if elected, which he won't would end manufacturing in this country as we knew it by taxing big business and Wall Street
Obama kept the train rolling but you can't totally blame it on him.. It started slowly in the eighties and then doubled down with NAFTA under Clinton and the train just kept the speed going during both Bush's and Obama's terms.. I don't like Obama but this is one you can't blame on him other than to say if he would have put a stop to it.. TPP is what Obama is pushing and until it is passed I can't fault him on it "YET"....
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Originally Posted by
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We lost a lot of manufacturing due to bad policy's of the Obama administration who by the way are a socialist government.
Obama care is socialism, a terrible expensive failure and job killer. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the democrats should stay the hell out of my life, do the job they was put there for. Bernie if elected, which he won't would end manufacturing in this country as we knew it by taxing big business and Wall Street
As usual, you don't know what your talking about, please do your homework, the 1% have never had it so good.... look it up!!!
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Originally Posted by
bean
Where there is big money and politics there is corruption, nothin will stop that. The whole system is corrupt and rigged? I don't think so but you will read an article now and a-gain about insider trading and ponzi schemes. They do the crime they do the time. The economy is plugging along despite the Dodd/Frank bill and Obama restrictions dragging it down.
johnny, big money usually wins out in the end. You're just an average schmuck who thinks the American dream is a home in Lodi, New Jersey and a baby. It don't get better, johnny
So this is your intelligent,insightful critique to my post MESSENGER BOY?You measure 'WEALTH' by the size of a persons 'BANK ACCOUNT'?How obvious and 'PATHETIC' you are MESSENGER BOY.Its a sad indictment of the 'BANKRUPTCY' of your character MESSENGER BOY.Tell you what,'CRAWL' back to your Corporate Overlords and give them this Message.......MESSENGER BOY.
Capitalism pretended to believe in 'JUSTICE','FAIRNESS' and 'DECENCY' only for a few decades in the mid to late 20th Century and than only out of 'FEAR' of Socialism and Communism.Once those threats disappeared,Capitalism reverted to its true state,'RED IN TOOTH AND CLAW',and driven by the Capitalist innate 'GREED' and 'HATRED' of others,of 'ONE ANOTHER' and of 'THEMSELVES'.(Ring-a-Bell Messenger Boy).'HATRED and 'FEAR' accompany insatiable 'GREED' and boundless 'NARCISSISM' in the Capitalist psyche,and the great business of Capitalism,turning everything 'LIVING' into the dead stuff of Capital and 'PROFIT',is an Ideology of absolute 'EVIL',being essentially opposite to 'LIFE' itself.Capitalism is just a 'DEATH' machine ,now reaching its inevitable 'GLORIFIED IDEAL' in the 'DESTRUCTION' of the 'PLANET',of 'ENDLESS WAR',and of 'HUMANITY' itself.
Another Great Article and Video of how 'WONDERFUL' Capitalism is working in these United States!!
https://represent.us/action/theproblem-4/
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Suddenly a bunch of losers think capitalism is dead and they have a better way
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Suddenly a bunch of losers think capitalism is dead and they have a better way
Maybe it's "Suddenly a bunch that are tired of what some call capitalism want a better way?"
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How one way or another we all benefit from some form of "Socialism" and we could not live without it......this is what it means to be a "Democratic Socialist"
75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America
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