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  • Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ore-migration/

    This is why I like Trump. Both parties work for the corporations and have used many things to hold us down and keep our wages down.

    Immigrants — like the birth of Americans’ children — help grow the economy. They expand the labor force, boost retail sales, spike real estate values, fuel the stock market, and expand the number of companies. A growing economy can be good for all — but it is especially good for wealthy people who can invest in company stocks.

    Yet every annual wave of immigrants also causes much economic harm to the roughly 220 million Americans (and recent legal immigrants) who work for a living, or who are educating themselves to take jobs in a few years.

    Every new wave of legal immigrants and illegal migrants competes for existing jobs and force down Americans’ wages. The arrivals also expand poverty, reduce pressure on investors to buy productivity-boosting machines, drive up the price of good housing, and add congestion to K-12 schools and universities.



    Immigrants, and especially visa workers, also push Americans out of careers and technological research, and they distort Americans’ politics by expanding cultural diversity and identity politics.

    Over the last 30 years, since George Bush’s father signed a 1990 bill roughly doubling immigration, the government’s massive inflow of immigrants has kept Americans wages almost flat (until 2018) and so has turbocharged the U.S. stock market.

    The establishment’s immigration policy has worked with free trade to shift much wealth from middle-class employees and the heartland states towards the stock market and the major coastal cities.

    Trump was elected in 2016 to help reverse the establishment’s economic policy.

    Since 2017, he has mostly stopped illegal migration, and he pushed wages up for blue-collars in 2018 and 2019. He has also trimmed legal immigration, and his April 22 policy sets the stage for incremental, significant reductions in the visa worker programs, such as the little-known B-1 and OPT visa programs.

    Business lobbies strongly oppose reductions in immigration and visa workers.

    It's not about hate. It's about money. And life quality for those of us who live here and can get nowhere due to all of the things used against us to keep our wages Dow....and...like it or not, immigrants, especially illegal undocumented immigrants, keep our wages down.
    Last edited by slavenomore; 05-03-2020, 10:27 PM.

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    Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

    Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ore-migration/

    This is why I like Trump. Both parties work for the corporations and have used many things to hold us down and keep our wages down.




    It's not about hate. It's about money. And life quality for those of us who live here and can get nowhere due to all of the things used against us to keep our wages Dow....and...like it or not, immigrants, especially illegal undocumented immigrants, keep our wages down.
    Hmmmmmm. The Bannon/Miller force is strong in this one...........

    Unless we are one of the indigenous people of this land we are immigrants.

    Interesting. An immigrant's offspring that feels other immigrants should not have the opportunity those ancestors had.

    Money, lack of it, creates envy, jealousy, and hate. Like it or not.

    Life choices have more to do with money struggles than anything.

    Why is it some making the same wage have more than others?

    There isn't much effort required for those wishing to pursue an ethnic cleansing of America to accomplish that. Prey on the minds of those that feel they have been left and forgotten. It's that simple........









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    Last edited by 222lifer; 05-04-2020, 07:41 AM. Reason: Spelling

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      Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

      Supply and demand is their theory when it suits business.
      More supply of labor=less pay...."your jobs are worth a dime a dozen"
      Why? Because there are many who can do it.
      Why are there many?
      Because they keep bringing more.



      But it doesn't work when they don't want it to.
      Pay does not go up with a driver shortage.
      And pay does not go up to attract more workers to a business or industry....not when they can bring more immigrants...not when they can automate..

      "These jobs nobody wants to do"

      People would do the jobs if they used their supply and demand theory and raised the pay....but instead they fill them with immigrants to pretty much exploit them....pay them nothing.
      And that, in turn keeps contracts going backwards.
      Last edited by slavenomore; 05-04-2020, 05:57 AM.

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        Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

        Originally posted by 222lifer View Post
        Hmmmmmm. The Bannon/Miller force is strong in this one...........

        Unless we are one of the indigenous people of this land we are immigrants.

        Interesting. An immigrant's offspring that feels other immigrants should not have the opportunity those ancestors had.

        Money, lack of it, creates envy, jealousy, and hate. Like it or not.

        Life choices have more to do with money struggles than anything.

        Why is it some making the same wage have more than others?

        There isn't much effort required for those wishing to pursue an ethnic cleansing of America to accomplish that. Prey on the minds of those that feel they have been left and forgotten. It's that simple........









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        You are going to use the words "ethic cleansing of America" ? wow! its been said by several past presidents and others in power that "A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation"
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          Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

          When unions were growing labor was a great life choice.
          And the immigrants and workers would benefit.
          But as we dwindle " the nation of immigrants" stuff works against us all.
          If unions were growing it would be fine. They did not have enough workers so we had high " supply".
          We also had economic borders such as regulations limiting amounts of employers who could do certain jobs in a certain area.
          We also did not have women in the workforce, another increase in their labor supply.
          We also did not have socialist countries like Japan competing with us. Which not only increased labor supply but companies had to compete with companies run by a whole nation.
          We also did not have NAFTA which increased competition with a nation of cheap labor and no regulations....then came China.

          The only way unions will grow again and increase wages and stop taking concessions...would be to slow and stop all of that. And it ain't looking good at all.

          When AI and robots increase......the only " not poor" life choice would have been to slow and stop it all.
          The jobs for educated and labor will be gone.
          The goal is to automate just about everything by 2030.
          Less than 10 years.
          Then where will people work?
          How will they earn a living.
          Even people who appear to have made the best life choices will be on the run backwards.

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            Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

            If it was all used " properly"....for the good of people....immigration would have been used to pick them and us up....i stead they bring us down.
            The same goes for our trade deals.
            If our wage was used as minimum instead of attacked...Mexico and China's people would be making great money and have more money as consumers and more would be sold....
            But they use it for evil....to drag us all down.

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              Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

              Originally posted by Jimmy View Post
              You are going to use the words "ethic cleansing of America" ? wow! its been said by several past presidents and others in power that "A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation"
              Not ethic, ethnic. Absolutely I will use those words. An ethnic group or ethnicity is a category of people who identify with each other, usually on the basis of presumed similarities such as common language, ancestry, history, society, culture, nation or social treatment within their residing area.Wikipedia

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                Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

                Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                If it was all used " properly"....for the good of people....immigration would have been used to pick them and us up....i stead they bring us down.
                The same goes for our trade deals.
                If our wage was used as minimum instead of attacked...Mexico and China's people would be making great money and have more money as consumers and more would be sold....
                But they use it for evil....to drag us all down.
                Supply side economics
                Right to work laws supported
                SCOTUS packed with anti union judges
                NLRB is not what I'd call favoring Unions
                Big money going to big corporations that lobby against us/Unions
                No serious penalties enforced for abusing immigrants
                OSHA picked apart, understaffed
                My fingers are getting tired.......THAT is what you voted for.....





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                  Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

                  The story refers to a Bush policy which doubled immigration numbers. Not only did they do it legally....they turned a blind eye to the illegals.
                  They say it is good for the economy.
                  "Whose" economy should be asked.
                  It's the Bush people, so you know "Whose" economy it is good for.....not ours..

                  And I would honestly feel the same if it was millions of albino's or green people or striped people coming. It is a tool used to increase labor supply to bust unions and lower wages and standards....and the Dems play us the same way...and the progressives.

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                    Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

                    Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                    The story refers to a Bush policy which doubled immigration numbers. Not only did they do it legally....they turned a blind eye to the illegals.
                    They say it is good for the economy.
                    "Whose" economy should be asked.
                    It's the Bush people, so you know "Whose" economy it is good for.....not ours..

                    And I would honestly feel the same if it was millions of albino's or green people or striped people coming. It is a tool used to increase labor supply to bust unions and lower wages and standards....and the Dems play us the same way...and the progressives.
                    The tools to exploit workers and bust labor Unions come from the inside. They create the scapegoats from the outside to further their agenda.

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                      Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

                      Originally posted by 222lifer View Post
                      Not ethic, ethnic. Absolutely I will use those words. An ethnic group or ethnicity is a category of people who identify with each other, usually on the basis of presumed similarities such as common language, ancestry, history, society, culture, nation or social treatment within their residing area.Wikipedia

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                      Maybe you could explain what you mean by ethnic cleansing. Are you talking about the border??

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                        Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

                        Originally posted by crazy View Post
                        Maybe you could explain what you mean by ethnic cleansing. Are you talking about the border??
                        The article Slave posted outlines the premise.....

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                          Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

                          Originally posted by 222lifer View Post
                          Supply side economics
                          Right to work laws supported
                          SCOTUS packed with anti union judges
                          NLRB is not what I'd call favoring Unions
                          Big money going to big corporations that lobby against us/Unions
                          No serious penalties enforced for abusing immigrants
                          OSHA picked apart, understaffed
                          My fingers are getting tired.......THAT is what you voted for.....





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                          Numbers are most important.
                          And we are never gonna build our numbers if the supply is not limited.
                          Borders are important to do that.
                          Physical national borders on immigration.
                          Economic borders with tariffs.

                          The Dems will talk up all you mentioned while totally wiping our numbers out by turning a blind eye to what I posted.

                          Borders will take care of all that stuff in time.IMO.


                          Instead of fighting Trump for all that time with impeachment BS........they could have supported him on this stuff which is good for us.
                          But the Dems don't really want to help our numbers either. They just act like they do.

                          If Obama would have gotten his TPP......all this type of stuff you mention would be gone in no time anyways....and they know it imo.

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                            Re: Bush Center Slams Trump. We Want More Migration.

                            Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                            Numbers are most important.
                            And we are never gonna build our numbers if the supply is not limited.
                            Borders are important to do that.
                            Physical national borders on immigration.
                            Economic borders with tariffs.

                            The Dems will talk up all you mentioned while totally wiping our numbers out by turning a blind eye to what I posted.

                            Borders will take care of all that stuff in time.IMO.


                            Instead of fighting Trump for all that time with impeachment BS........they could have supported him on this stuff which is good for us.
                            But the Dems don't really want to help our numbers either. They just act like they do.

                            If Obama would have gotten his TPP......all this type of stuff you mention would be gone in no time anyways....and they know it imo.
                            You are definitely sold on the idea. That short list I started is just the tip of the iceberg. There is more. You'll see it bear fruit and we will be the loser.



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