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  • #31
    Re: for those that don't get it

    Originally posted by crazy View Post
    You have plenty of Liberals that are center left so to speak. And then you have the far left liberals or as others call them the Democratic socialists.. That is the group that has taken over the Democratic party.. I read a few months back where some right leaning political think tank even came out that it is time for the GOP to start recognizing organized labor and to work with them because the Democrat's for the most part have abandoned the working class people in this country.. How far it goes I really don't know but I will try to see if I can find the article...And I believe that in today's political climate that JFK would be a moderate Republican..
    That's what bothers me Crazy... IMO... there's not that much difference between a moderate democrat and a moderate republican that they couldn't work it out amongst themselves if they really had a mind to but it will never happen because the corrupt media and politicians will never let that happen if they can help it. Because if that were to happen... the swamp really would end up dry and they damn well know it!!!

    You mentioned JFK... IMO... he got killed trying to get rid of the Fed... I wonder if that would of happened today... how many people would say that he didn't try hard enough because I could only imagine what all the corrupt politicians would have been saying and how the corrupt MSM would be portraying him. I also don't know which party would hate him more today or would they be about equally divided when it came to him too.That's how screwed up our corrupt media and politicians have us these days and they know it. What's right is wrong and what's wrong is right. They actually have us squawking back and forth on who's right when the majority of both parties are corrupt which I'm just as guilty... even though I'm not with either party and know better. But I still do it... and that is one question that I have been pondering on for a long time now as to why because the citizens will never win when it comes to the left-right game that they so cleverly set up.

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    • #32
      Re: for those that don't get it

      Corporate Democrats,Corporate Republicans and their 'cult' bases have been spewing their Red-Team/Blue-Team divide and conquer ideologies forever,and no more so then right here on TOL...How many times have I posted about it?...How many times?...FOREVER...Red-Team/Blue-Team-Left/Right-Good-Cop/Bad-Cop,always,and I mean ALWAYS,falling on 'Deaf Ears'....

      They both spew a narrative that describes the 'chaos' when it comes to the ''other'' party,but time and time again ends with solutions at their navel!!!!...

      I could give two s*its about the political affiliation,religion,age,sex,color or sexual proclivities of potential leaders...And at a certain point,intelligence itself becomes a highly overrated characteristic when it speaks to a sum total of nothing in terms of what a candidate is likely to offer materially to the 'working class'...I have met so many highly pedigreed,energetic,young,smart people whose elevated IQ has absolutely zero relevance to their 'stunning' lack of awareness and empathy to the world around them...I'm not young and don't possess anything that far past average intelligence,but where politics are concerned,I got all the ''better ideas'' I'll ever need...You got a 'ruling-class minority' and a 'working-class majority'...The former has been 'screwing' the latter at every turn and opportunity for the past 50 years...Any ''new idea'' that doesn't lead with that REALITY ain't new...it's Horse-S*it!!!!!!

      ''Imagining a Better World'' is just another aspect of the working classes American Dream...These days,it's a dream in the face of a brutal,unforgiving,and besieged world...That slogan fits with the American Public searching for psychological security in a chaotic world that has 'lost' it's balance and order...When the public is looking for security it will create an authority as it created Trump,and NOW Biden...So the question remains,do we trust a slogan or do we see Trump or Biden as that authority?

      In my estimation,what we need is someone to 'heal' the divides which fragments the people into 'groups' set 'against' one another...We need politicians who want to 'serve' the people,meet there needs and interests,and NOT there for their 'own' desire for greed and power...We need someone with a Heart filled with love,kindness,compassion,and empathy,and a mind steadfast in it's search for solutions for ALL,and not just the few...We need representatives that are NOT for their 'party',but for the people...For that to happen the people must face their fears,forgo psychological security as an illusion,and then ''LEAD'' rather than ''FOLLOW''....Who then speaks to that working class group of American Citizens?...That's the question...

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      • #33
        Re: for those that don't get it

        Originally posted by Docker View Post
        As for the Constitution it may not what you think it is,Oh the power of the press (Propaganda)


        https://newrepublic.com/article/137310/founding-fathers-power-grab[/url]


        LOL...here you are talking about propaganda and the press and throw this bias liberal BS at me...you just made my day. Well right back out you...



        And check out who printed it... the bias left New York Times themselves. You would be better off reading the comics when it comes to learning about the Constitution than The New Republic or even the The Babylon Bee!

        Since you stuck your foot in that ignorant mouth again... suppose you tell me what I think the Constitution is? You and that condescending attidude will get you in trouble one of these days. So tell me... what do I think about the Constitution is wrong and what propaganda is the press spewing out? And how about not copping out and ignoring it either... I get that enough from other members.

        The Federalist Party was the first political party in the United States followed by the (Anti-Federalists) which came to be called the Democratic-Republican Party which was founded by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. Tell me… which party is now to be considered the Democratic Party and which one is now considered to be the Republican Party? Now… tell me who is considered to have founded socialism and when was it brought to America? After you tell me those answers... I'll just see how much you know when it comes to the press and it's propaganda.

        IMO… there’s no such thing as democratic socialism… it’s just socialism… pure and simple. Some moderate democrats may think of themselves as “democratic socialists” because they pick and choose which socialist programs to follow… you know the ones that call it democratic socialism… I do not. I call it nothing but moderate democrats liking some forms of socialism and trying to work it into the system which I personally don’t have a problem with. I also believe that our founders didn’t either which brings us to the Constitution… and the checks and balances system.

        You keep trying to say that the self proclaimed “democratic socialists” are the only ones that believe in a mix between the two…. that… IMO… is incorrect. Or are you going to try telling me that all the Republican Teamsters won’t accept some forms of socialism too… after all… it’s well known by many that labor unions are a form of socialism but you don’t see them running around calling themselves “republican socialists”… do you? I’ll tell you why I think you do… because it makes it mighty convenient when it comes to making it look like the so called “democratic socialists” are moderate left and making it look like all republicans are all far right. You know there are moderate republicans… so why don’t you recognize them as such because you evidently don’t… or you wouldn’t think they were for pure capitalism.

        I also don’t think we should be worrying about the Scandinavian Countries right now… I think the citizens should all be concerned about our corrupt Congress when it comes to catering to China again right now. They took advantage of us for decades… until Trump came along and was in the process of straightening that out… but now… if Biden gets in… game over. They ruined our economy with the virus with the left’s help… at the same time it’s not considered politically correct to call it the Wuhan virus and now the Chinese economy is set to overtake the U.S. faster than previously anticipated after weathering the Wuhan virus pandemic. Why aren’t the citizens demanding China take responsibility?

        And what was our Congress doing… just passed a $2.3 trillion bill giving out massive amounts of foreign aid to other countries… the left’s pet projects… giving free money to the illegals and throwing nothing but table scraps to the citizens. So you see… that’s where I’m focusing at the moment… not Scandinavia Counties having a higher standard of living than America.

        Tell me... what does The New Republic say about that... lol[/QUOTE]

        So everything is black and white to you....I will admit the NY times is a rag...but this Country has always been about the Rich they have always control things...


        Wait a minute this was written by a Lefty too...

        http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/267.html


        "Charles Beard also noted that four groups were not with representation at the Constitutional Convention: those without property, slaves, indentured servants and women, and thus the Constitution did not really reflect the intersts of the disenfranchised. The Constitution WAS WRITTEN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE WEALTHY. Qualifications for voting at state levels required in most cases the owning of property and excluded women, Indians and slaves and there were no popular elections to higher office. The Constitution only ensured this greater permanent division of society into a rich ruling class and poor working class."


        Do you know what the "Sedition Act of 1798" and the Sedition Act of 1918" was about...IMO it's about "Free Speech". IMO it's about free speech being suppress...

        Do you know what "Shays Rebellion" was about...or just what your school book told you...

        How many Treaties did we break with the Native Americans?

        Your first Republican President (Lincoln) over ruled the Constitution and Bill of Right...do you know that?

        One of the Greatest Presidents IMO was FDR and he was not perfect....But do you know what the "Peoples Bill of Rights " are....

        https://www.openculture.com/2017/08/...of-rights.html


        "Among these are:

        The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the Nation;

        The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

        The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

        The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

        The right of every family to a decent home;

        The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

        The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

        The right to a good education.

        All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.


        "Equality of opportunity for youth and for others.

        Jobs for those who can work.

        Security for those who need it.

        The ending of special privilege for the few.

        The preservation of civil liberties for all.

        The enjoyment of the fruits of scientific progress in a wider and constantly rising standard of living.

        These are the simple, the basic things that must never be lost sight of in the turmoil and unbelievable complexity of our modern world. The inner and abiding strength of our economic and political systems is dependent upon the degree to which they fulfill these expectation


        Do you agree wit this?

        You cry about Trump bit did you know there was a "Coup" against FDR?

        https://www.openculture.com/2019/05/...roosevelt.html

        Do you know American Companies did business wit Nazi Germany?


        https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-ameri...-the-nazis.php


        These Companies and those who tried to over throw FRD should have been tried for Treason, but of course wee not..but money talks here in America...it's always about money..you can do whatever you want ...anyone say Edaron?

        Have you ever read the "Communist Manifesto"? yes...no.. you seem to be a expert on Communism...



        And you say the Constitution and are from of Government works..check and balances...how it working for Trump? How did it work for Gore? Let's face it the system is broken....and if you do a little homework this is nothing new...people way back in the late 1800" were bitching about the same thing we are today..that are representatives don't aha re back or best interest win mine.


        And people have tried to change things ever hear of "Dorrs Rebellion" way back when if you didn't own property you didn't vote (but you probably agree with that don't you)

        Not to mention that are fore-fathers stated that all men are created equal all but the Negro and Native American..whos land it was in the first place..now some wanted Slavery Abolished but the monies interest won out as usual....


        I could go on if you want....but in the end America is just another "Empire" and like all Empires it's run by evil people IMO....don't really think the people of are Country are evil they just don't know what are Country does or look the other way....


        Oh and by the way,...do you believe the official Government story of 911? Many here do....

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        • #34
          Re: for those that don't get it

          Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
          So everything is black and white to you....I will admit the NY times is a rag...but this Country has always been about the Rich they have always control things...
          And how is that Trumps fault?

          By the way... if you are going to make a long post... how about proof reading it first. It's a shame that I have to correct your posts before I can even quote them. Or do I have you so disoriented that you are now combining my posts with yours.

          [QUOTE=Sayheykid;422226]"Charles Beard also noted that four groups were not with representation at the Constitutional Convention: those without property, slaves, indentured servants and women, and thus the Constitution did not really reflect the intersts of the disenfranchised. The Constitution WAS WRITTEN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE WEALTHY. Qualifications for voting at state levels required in most cases the owning of property and excluded women, Indians and slaves and there were no popular elections to higher office. The Constitution only ensured this greater permanent division of society into a rich ruling class and poor working class."[QUOTE]

          He was more than a bias lefty… he was considered “the mightiest muckraker of them all” by one writer…

          Bypassing the hero worship of the Founding Fathers common in other histories, Beard sought to understand the United States Constitution by examining the lives and backgrounds of every man who contributed to its creation. He concluded that the drafters of the constitution were men of a distinct elite class, therefore their actions and ideas reflected both their economic worldview and their own self-interest.

          Unsurprisingly, Beard was subjected to criticism and vitriol for his revisionism. One writer called him “the mightiest muckraker of them all.

          https://alphahistory.com/americanrev...charles-beard/
          We could quote people’s opinions all day long which doesn’t prove a thing… how about showing which parts in the Constitution itself which benefits the rich.

          Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
          Do you know what the "Sedition Act of 1798" and the Sedition Act of 1918" was about...IMO it's about "Free Speech". IMO it's about free speech being suppress...
          Here’s what I think about those two acts. The "Sedition Act of 1798" which was unconstitutional passed by none other than the Federalist-controlled Congress and signed into law which did violate free speech. The Sedition Act of 1918" was created by A. Mitchell Palmer (Democrat) and Woodrow Wilson (Democrat) passed during World War I to which I believe to have violated free speech so it was unconstitutional as well. So… what’s that prove… except just two more instances proving that the democrats never did give a damn when it came to violating the Constitution.

          How does that help the rich and undermine the Constitution?

          Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
          Do you know what "Shays Rebellion" was about...or just what your school book told you...
          Yes I do and it was in my school book at “Deplorables High School”. It was to show the need for the Constitution which then replaced the Articles of Confederation because gave it gave too much power to the individual colonies. Once again… how does that help the rich or undermine the Constitution?

          Sorry... not allowed any more characters... will have to continue on next post... stay tuned...
          Last edited by Docker; 12-27-2020, 09:17 PM.

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          • #35
            Re: for those that don't get it

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            How many Treaties did we break with the Native Americans?
            I don’t know off hand but it was a bunch… but once again… how does that help the rich and undermine the Constitution?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            Your first Republican President (Lincoln) over ruled the Constitution and Bill of Right...do you know that?
            He wasn’t my first Republican President… pay attention… I already said I wasn’t a republican or are you trying to read my mind again? But even though he wasn’t my first Republican President… I still think he was one hell of a man! And here you are once again just going off people’s opinions because the Emancipation Proclamation is highly controversial. Once again… how does that help the rich and undermine the Constitution?

            Oh… and for your information… the Federalists opposed the Bill of Rights… oh yes they did. And just what party did the Federalists end up in? C'mon... even you have to know that one... but you're just not saying... right?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            One of the Greatest Presidents IMO was FDR and he was not perfect....But do you know what the "Peoples Bill of Rights " are....
            Yes… the Economic Bill of Rights… but that wouldn’t have been added to the Constitution… just a political challenge protected under federal law.

            Oh… and for your information… the Federalists opposed the Bill of Rights… oh yes they did! And who were the Federalists again? By the way… why didn’t you answer that question?

            Once again… how does that help the rich and undermine the Constitution?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            These are the simple, the basic things that must never be lost sight of in the turmoil and unbelievable complexity of our modern world. The inner and abiding strength of our economic and political systems is dependent upon the degree to which they fulfill these expectation
            Do you agree with this?
            Depends… I would have to see what it all entailed first… after all… I’m not Pelosi and just want to agree with it without knowing all the specifics. Once again… how does that help the rich and undermine the Constitution?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            You cry about Trump bit did you know there was a "Coup" against FDR?
            No I didn’t… but what does that have to do with anything? Since we’re on the initial’s subject… did you know there was a plot against JFK? How does that undermine the Constitution?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            Do you know American Companies did business wit Nazi Germany?
            No I didn’t… but how does that help the rich and undermine the Constitution?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            These Companies and those who tried to over throw FRD should have been tried for Treason, but of course wee not..but money talks here in America...it's always about money..you can do whatever you want ...anyone say Edaron?
            Yes they should have but how does that undermine the Constitution?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            Have you ever read the "Communist Manifesto"? yes...no.. you seem to be a expert on Communism...
            Some of it… enough to form an opinion because it would end capitalism and turn us into a socialist society and ultimately communism. That’s what brought socialism to America which you would already know if you answered my question.

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            And you say the Constitution and are from of Government works..check and balances...how it working for Trump? How did it work for Gore? Let's face it the system is broken....and if you do a little homework this is nothing new...people way back in the late 1800" were bitching about the same thing we are today..that are representatives don't aha re back or best interest win mine.
            For it to work… it has to be followed. Just what part of the Constitution is being violated every day don’t you understand? You’re acting like a naïve and brainwashed liberal now. And if would do a little homework… you wouldn’t be so ignorant. You shouldn’t just take the first thing you hear and read and believe someone’s opinion to be fact or you’ll just continue to look foolish.

            Oh… and by the way… the Constitution doesn’t also work with a corrupt congress like the sham impeachment process. But guess what… thanks to the checks and balance system… it didn’t work… did it? You just don’t understand do you? You would if you didn’t think you were so superior and know it all… that’s the difference between you and I… I know I don’t know everything and why I believe that you should never quit learning.

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            And people have tried to change things ever hear of "Dorrs Rebellion" way back when if you didn't own property you didn't vote (but you probably agree with that don't you)
            No… now that you inserted foot again… tell me why you think that I would believe in that?

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            Not to mention that are fore-fathers stated that all men are created equal all but the Negro and Native American..whos land it was in the first place..now some wanted Slavery Abolished but the monies interest won out as usual....
            You really are a bleeding heart liberal. Sure… the African Americans and the Indians were shit on in the worst way… but what in the hell can we do about it now? You act like they were the only nationalities that have faced atrocity and bigotry over here… how about the Irish... the Chinese… the Slavs… the Italians… the Jews… the Hispanics and so on. I have news for you… people have been killing… mistreating and enslaving their own kind since time began… and here you are... using them again just to try and make your point.

            I know that you know nothing but did you ever hear of the Know-Nothing Party…

            The Know-Nothings

            The biggest challenge to immigrants in 19th-century America came from the rise in a movement known as nativism. The movement was supported by white, American-born Protestants who believed the swelling tide of immigrants and, in particular, the rapid growth of Catholicism in the United States were harming the public welfare. Middle- and upper-class citizens felt the majority of European immigrants were uneducated and would not be able to contribute to American society. Catholics, the nativists believed, were plotting to turn the country into a papal state. The Know Nothings were the most powerful of the nativist groups. Among the reforms they demanded of the government were a restriction of voting privileges for immigrants and the prohibition of immigrants and Catholics to hold public office.

            https://www.theclassroom.com/challen...e-8483961.html
            Like you said… the rich have always controlled things… either do something about it or quit crying about it because most of us already know it. What… I suppose that’s all Trumps fault too… I just didn’t realize he was there when the Constitution was framed.

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            I could go on if you want....but in the end America is just another "Empire" and like all Empires it's run by evil people IMO....don't really think the people of are Country are evil they just don't know what are Country does or look the other way....
            Hell ya… I want to go on… at least till I find out why you took it upon yourself to try and tell me want I want… after all… that’s what started this. I also want to know how you know how people think and believe. So how about answering those questions… will you? I had the common courtesy to answer yours.

            And trust me… there are plenty of evil people in this country… always has been and always will… just like with the rich people. You just have to learn to live with until… hopefully… there comes a time when we can do something about it.

            Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
            Oh and by the way,...do you believe the official Government story of 911? Many here do....
            Hell no… IMO… the government either took part in all of it or at the very least knew about what was coming and didn't do a damn thing about it. You know… don’t let a good crisis go to waste… especially if you were complicit in the first place. After all… that’s been one of our corrupt government’s mottos hasn’t it?

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            • #36
              Re: for those that don't get it

              Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
              So everything is black and white to you....I will admit the NY times is a rag...but this Country has always been about the Rich they have always control things...
              Originally posted by Docker View Post
              By the way... if you are going to make a long post... how about proof reading it first. It's a shame that I have to correct your posts before I can even quote them. Or do I have you so disoriented that you are now combining my posts with yours.
              Just in case you don't understand what I meant in my reply about combining my post with yours...



              Kinda makes it look like it was your reply to my post... doesn't it? Not accusing... just saying...

              Reverse quotes... wouldn't you say...

              Sorry... only in your dreams... lol
              Last edited by Docker; 12-27-2020, 10:09 PM.

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              • #37
                Re: for those that don't get it

                Originally posted by wizard View Post
                Corporate Democrats,Corporate Republicans and their 'cult' bases have been spewing their Red-Team/Blue-Team divide and conquer ideologies forever,and no more so then right here on TOL...How many times have I posted about it?...How many times?...FOREVER...Red-Team/Blue-Team-Left/Right-Good-Cop/Bad-Cop,always,and I mean ALWAYS,falling on 'Deaf Ears'....

                They both spew a narrative that describes the 'chaos' when it comes to the ''other'' party,but time and time again ends with solutions at their navel!!!!...

                I could give two s*its about the political affiliation,religion,age,sex,color or sexual proclivities of potential leaders...And at a certain point,intelligence itself becomes a highly overrated characteristic when it speaks to a sum total of nothing in terms of what a candidate is likely to offer materially to the 'working class'...I have met so many highly pedigreed,energetic,young,smart people whose elevated IQ has absolutely zero relevance to their 'stunning' lack of awareness and empathy to the world around them...I'm not young and don't possess anything that far past average intelligence,but where politics are concerned,I got all the ''better ideas'' I'll ever need...You got a 'ruling-class minority' and a 'working-class majority'...The former has been 'screwing' the latter at every turn and opportunity for the past 50 years...Any ''new idea'' that doesn't lead with that REALITY ain't new...it's Horse-S*it!!!!!!

                ''Imagining a Better World'' is just another aspect of the working classes American Dream...These days,it's a dream in the face of a brutal,unforgiving,and besieged world...That slogan fits with the American Public searching for psychological security in a chaotic world that has 'lost' it's balance and order...When the public is looking for security it will create an authority as it created Trump,and NOW Biden...So the question remains,do we trust a slogan or do we see Trump or Biden as that authority?

                In my estimation,what we need is someone to 'heal' the divides which fragments the people into 'groups' set 'against' one another...We need politicians who want to 'serve' the people,meet there needs and interests,and NOT there for their 'own' desire for greed and power...We need someone with a Heart filled with love,kindness,compassion,and empathy,and a mind steadfast in it's search for solutions for ALL,and not just the few...We need representatives that are NOT for their 'party',but for the people...For that to happen the people must face their fears,forgo psychological security as an illusion,and then ''LEAD'' rather than ''FOLLOW''....Who then speaks to that working class group of American Citizens?...That's the question...
                Just one more thought...The concept of ideology,like other concepts of division,always produce conflict,exploitation,and hostility...but....A discriminating mind and open heart will always see ourselves in the eyes of another,and that individual will always know what is 'right'....Peace!

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                • #38
                  Re: for those that don't get it

                  The Lesson Of 2020: What's The Point Of Pointing Out The Hypocrisy?

                  But as I sat down to write this morning the overwhelming sense of futility washed over me. And nothing saps your will to work more than reading through the headlines and noting the complete lack of conscience on display by the media, our political leadership or frankly anyone with half a brain. Worse, most people in America can’t even be bothered to care about such things. And if you were to confront them with the evidence there must be some good reason why that ‘just can’t be true.’ The FBI, which couldn’t find any issues with Hunter Biden’s laptop for months nor ever do anything substantial with Anthony Weiner’s laptop in FOUR YEARS somehow solved the case of the Nashville bomber in less than 48 hours conclusively. And that conclusion was the same as every other major terrorist event in this country’s recent history - a lone crackpot blew himself up to make a half-formed political statement. At least this time they had the good sense to vaguely tie the patsy to the political left versus turn him into a mouth-breathing MAGAtard with a Q-complex.

                  And somehow no one seems to care. Nor does anyone care about the lack of conclusion about the shooting in Las Vegas a few years back. Notice the trend? Major stories that are supposed to matter are dropped the moment they get anything close to uncomfortable for those in power who are chosen to remain in power. I’ve always thought Donald Trump’s biggest flaw was that he was an incurious man, but compared to the so-called journalists of our corporate media Trump is the second coming of Sherlock Holmes for pity’s sake.

                  There are voter irregularities of a type and kind which demand real coverage, even if it turns out to be easy to cast doubt on them. And yet, after haranguing Americans TO CARE about voter fraud in places like Belarus, Crimea, Venezuela, Iran, Serbia, Georgia we’re supposed to swallow the lie this was the ‘most secure election in this country’s history’ without even a bottle of ketchup? No matter where you are on the political spectrum, nor who your Twitter spirit guide is, all of these things should disturb you.

                  And yet, it doesn’t seem to. It is not CNN’s nor Fox’s decision to not report on them because they don’t want to engage in searching out the truth.

                  https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-out-hypocrisy

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                  • #39
                    Re: for those that don't get it

                    Originally posted by Docker View Post
                    The Lesson Of 2020: What's The Point Of Pointing Out The Hypocrisy?

                    But as I sat down to write this morning the overwhelming sense of futility washed over me. And nothing saps your will to work more than reading through the headlines and noting the complete lack of conscience on display by the media, our political leadership or frankly anyone with half a brain. Worse, most people in America can’t even be bothered to care about such things. And if you were to confront them with the evidence there must be some good reason why that ‘just can’t be true.’ The FBI, which couldn’t find any issues with Hunter Biden’s laptop for months nor ever do anything substantial with Anthony Weiner’s laptop in FOUR YEARS somehow solved the case of the Nashville bomber in less than 48 hours conclusively. And that conclusion was the same as every other major terrorist event in this country’s recent history - a lone crackpot blew himself up to make a half-formed political statement. At least this time they had the good sense to vaguely tie the patsy to the political left versus turn him into a mouth-breathing MAGAtard with a Q-complex.

                    And somehow no one seems to care. Nor does anyone care about the lack of conclusion about the shooting in Las Vegas a few years back. Notice the trend? Major stories that are supposed to matter are dropped the moment they get anything close to uncomfortable for those in power who are chosen to remain in power. I’ve always thought Donald Trump’s biggest flaw was that he was an incurious man, but compared to the so-called journalists of our corporate media Trump is the second coming of Sherlock Holmes for pity’s sake.

                    There are voter irregularities of a type and kind which demand real coverage, even if it turns out to be easy to cast doubt on them. And yet, after haranguing Americans TO CARE about voter fraud in places like Belarus, Crimea, Venezuela, Iran, Serbia, Georgia we’re supposed to swallow the lie this was the ‘most secure election in this country’s history’ without even a bottle of ketchup? No matter where you are on the political spectrum, nor who your Twitter spirit guide is, all of these things should disturb you.

                    And yet, it doesn’t seem to. It is not CNN’s nor Fox’s decision to not report on them because they don’t want to engage in searching out the truth.

                    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-out-hypocrisy
                    Yes Docker...''Mass Media Propaganda is Enemy #1''...Most voters are low information team players ruled by emotion not knowledge or concern with the issues...The corporate media reinforces these attitudes through their emphasis on personalities,tactics and strategies of the horserace,etc....To them it's just a game,and their goal is to stoke up loyalty to the only two teams in the corporate run league...It's a rigged system that keeps money and power flowing to the corporations who run it...Intelligent and ethical people who think it's wrong that corporations should own and run everything are cast out of the game...

                    The real losers,as always,are working class Americans...This is what happens when you keep voting 'against' your own interests based on corporate media disinformation and propaganda...

                    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/56093.htm

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                    • #40
                      Re: for those that don't get it

                      Originally posted by Docker View Post
                      Just in case you don't understand what I meant in my reply about combining my post with yours...



                      Kinda makes it look like it was your reply to my post... doesn't it? Not accusing... just saying...

                      Reverse quotes... wouldn't you say...

                      Sorry... only in your dreams... lol



                      No, I wouldn't say....and I didn't know I was getting graded on my post...and the thread is "For those that don't get it" I would say thats pretty open....just seeing what you know and don't know....just saying America may not be what you thought it may be....IMO the "Empire" began with the "Monroe Doctrine" and who do you think was first in one to buy up that Indian land that we booted them off of....and as for Lincoln he suspend "Habeas Corpos" imagine if Trump didn't that....the press would have a field day....Than again "Habeas Corpos" may not mean anything with the "Patriot Act" which should be repeal. And no I don't proof read much of what I write...my down fall since High school..but some how I made it...I have a life outside TOL.

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                      • #41
                        Re: for those that don't get it

                        Amazing how docile we are.
                        And they know it. And count on it.
                        They just do what they want. And nobody ever does anything about it even though all civil routes are blocked shut.
                        Amazing.
                        With Big Tech in control of free speech and elections and surveillance.....the noose seems to get tighter and tighter.
                        In so many different ways.
                        Freedom and Liberty for some....but surely we are not in on the deal.

                        https://youtu.be/Q23_LCri1Kw

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                        • #42
                          Re: for those that don't get it

                          Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
                          No, I wouldn't say....and I didn't know I was getting graded on my post...and the thread is "For those that don't get it" I would say thats pretty open....just seeing what you know and don't know....just saying America may not be what you thought it may be....IMO the "Empire" began with the "Monroe Doctrine" and who do you think was first in one to buy up that Indian land that we booted them off of....and as for Lincoln he suspend "Habeas Corpos" imagine if Trump didn't that....the press would have a field day....Than again "Habeas Corpos" may not mean anything with the "Patriot Act" which should be repeal. And no I don't proof read much of what I write...my down fall since High school..but some how I made it...I have a life outside TOL.
                          I expected as much from you... you had your words quoted by me and my words in the body of your post... and you don't think that makes it look like you were responding to me... yep... you got that right... you really are a perfect fit for this thread.

                          And just how did the "Empire" begin with the "Monroe Doctrine"?

                          And what is it with you and the Indians argument... and my part in all of it or our argument?

                          As for Lincoln suspending "Habeas Corpos"... again... what the hell does that have to do with me or our argument?

                          And as for the Patriot Act... thank Bush and the deep state for that one. After all... we both share the blame along with all the other citizens by letting our government get away with the 911 hoax. It just wasn't a hoax... it was a catastrophic terrorist act perpetrated by our own government commited against man and country!!! One of the main results being the Patriot Act.

                          By the way... just who do you think you're impressing by bringing all these things up that have absolutely nothing to do with what started this argument in the first place. I'll tell you why... to deflect the fact that you have no idea how to argue your point.... so you decide to bring up anything that sounds interesting that makes you look like your half way intelligent and try making some kind of point with it. Let me tell you... it doesn't. Why is it so important for you to look like you know it all anyway? I don't know about you but my dumbass had a decent and fulfilling life...good paying career and now... a decent retirement to finally do the things I always wanted to and I don't think that being smart would of made things any better than that.

                          Hell... I bet that you don't even know what started this in the first place. It was your condescending ass trying to tell me what I wanted. No Docker... "what you want"...

                          And here you are again saying... "just seeing what you know and don't know". And your superior ass knows everything... right?

                          Which brings us to your last patronizing statement..."America may not be what you thought it may be". Well guess what... none of us really know the whole truth about what all our government has been or is up to which makes you just as ignorant as I... but at least I realize that fact but eveidently you don't which also make you foolish to believe otherwise.

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                          • #43
                            Re: for those that don't get it

                            Originally posted by Docker View Post
                            I expected as much from you... you had your words quoted by me and my words in the body of your post... and you don't think that makes it look like you were responding to me... yep... you got that right... you really are a perfect fit for this thread.

                            And just how did the "Empire" begin with the "Monroe Doctrine"?

                            And what is it with you and the Indians argument... and my part in all of it or our argument?

                            As for Lincoln suspending "Habeas Corpos"... again... what the hell does that have to do with me or our argument?

                            And as for the Patriot Act... thank Bush and the deep state for that one. After all... we both share the blame along with all the other citizens by letting our government get away with the 911 hoax. It just wasn't a hoax... it was a catastrophic terrorist act perpetrated by our own government commited against man and country!!! One of the main results being the Patriot Act.

                            By the way... just who do you think you're impressing by bringing all these things up that have absolutely nothing to do with what started this argument in the first place. I'll tell you why... to deflect the fact that you have no idea how to argue your point.... so you decide to bring up anything that sounds interesting that makes you look like your half way intelligent and try making some kind of point with it. Let me tell you... it doesn't. Why is it so important for you to look like you know it all anyway? I don't know about you but my dumbass had a decent and fulfilling life...good paying career and now... a decent retirement to finally do the things I always wanted to and I don't think that being smart would of made things any better than that.

                            Hell... I bet that you don't even know what started this in the first place. It was your condescending ass trying to tell me what I wanted. No Docker... "what you want"...

                            And here you are again saying... "just seeing what you know and don't know". And your superior ass knows everything... right?

                            Which brings us to your last patronizing statement..."America may not be what you thought it may be". Well guess what... none of us really know the whole truth about what all our government has been or is up to which makes you just as ignorant as I... but at least I realize that fact but eveidently you don't which also make you foolish to believe otherwise.
                            How my post got mix in with yours I have no idea how that happen? You know what you have your opinion I have mine...am moving on (nothing personal) taken just moving on.

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                            • #44
                              Re: for those that don't get it

                              Originally posted by slavenomore View Post
                              Amazing how docile we are.
                              And they know it. And count on it.
                              They just do what they want. And nobody ever does anything about it even though all civil routes are blocked shut.
                              Amazing.
                              With Big Tech in control of free speech and elections and surveillance.....the noose seems to get tighter and tighter.
                              In so many different ways.
                              Freedom and Liberty for some....but surely we are not in on the deal.

                              https://youtu.be/Q23_LCri1Kw
                              Slave, did you watch the entire 5 hour video?? Asking for a friend.. Although I have to admit Lord of the Rings was an excellent movie.. All three of them..

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                              • #45
                                Re: for those that don't get it

                                Originally posted by Sayheykid View Post
                                How my post got mix in with yours I have no idea how that happen? You know what you have your opinion I have mine...am moving on (nothing personal) taken just moving on.
                                Yes we do have our seperate opinions Sayheykid which we aren't afraid or shy when it comes to posting them either. IMO... that's that good ole old school mentality that the Teamsters of the past were well known for and proud of. I aslo don't take things personally because my philosophy is... "you better be able to take what you give out". I actually enjoyed our debate because in all honesty... it brought back memories that I haven't thought about for years. And from what I have learned from this conversation along with your other posts is that we agree on a good many issues.

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